>Content Warning: This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace. From an anthropological perspective, it’s fascinating how the weakest and most sensitive people possible are now the ones in charge of policing language. Talib was right about this, on a long enough timeline most things do become a dictatorship of the small minority. https://medium.com/ince…
Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative
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#172How is hooked 'better'? They both mean the same?!?
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#173I generally support the initiative, but they seem to have omitted the most important category: class bias.
Likely because the list itself is the product of class bias
"White space" is offensive but "white trash" isn't?
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#174> Instead of "blind review", consider using "anonymous review". Context: Unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture. But.. disability is abnormal and negative? How tortured of a definition of 'normal' must one use to make blindness normal? And I suspect if the author of that sentence were offered, say, $100,000 to undergo a painless but irreversible blin…
This is one thing I don't get about modern woke politics. We are supposed to be accepting of each other, but need to ignore the things we are supposed to accept.
People are different, people are abnormal, why can't that be celebrated?
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#175Some of these suggestions are so euphemistic I wouldn't necessarily know what someone using them is trying to say... Plenty of cases where the client isn't actually the user, plenty of cases where saying something is "surprising" doesn't give the same subtext as saying something is "insane..." and that's just scratching the surface. GF is 100% Mexican descent, first gen US citizen, w/ advanced degree and she despises…
I'll never forget how a Mexican on Twitter replied to those who use "Latinx": "Fuck off, pendejx." Your girlfriend's attitude generally reflects those of Hispanics in the US, most of whom prefer to be referred to as "Hispanic". The rationale behind Latinx is that it covers both Latino and Latina, while also acknowledging the trans/nonbinary/genderqueer contingent. But I think the term "Hispanic" covers everybody as w…
"Latinx" was so obviously created by an English-primary speaker.
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#176Some are obvious and others surprising to me, but I'm very glad they mention the way "American" is used in the US. It always ticked me off but I never felt like I could mention it due to how widespread it is. Now I have somewhere to point to if I want to bring it up, kind of like how French people can point to the DGLFLF if someone uses the term nègre nowadays.
It seems to me like a simple cultural/language difference related to how we count the continents. In the Anglosphere (not just the USA) children are brought up thinking of seven continents, including North and South America, while in Spanish‐speaking countries they think of six, including simply America. Neither is really right or wrong, because there’s no formal definition of what a continent is—it’s merely convention. (Some people consider Eurasia a single continent, some people don’t consider Antarctica a continent…)
Because of this difference in convention, the word “América” in Spanish is more accurately translated to English as “the Americas” than “America.”
Is this actually a problem that needs fixing in English? Is it a problem at all? Are there any Canadians out there offended at not being called Americans despite making up a major part of [North] America?
The suggested alternative of using “United States” to refer to America‐the‐country overlooks that there is another country (even another North American country!) with that name: Estados Unidos Mexicanos.
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#178Some of these suggestions are so euphemistic I wouldn't necessarily know what someone using them is trying to say... Plenty of cases where the client isn't actually the user, plenty of cases where saying something is "surprising" doesn't give the same subtext as saying something is "insane..." and that's just scratching the surface. GF is 100% Mexican descent, first gen US citizen, w/ advanced degree and she despises…
> GF is 100% Mexican descent, first gen US citizen, w/ advanced degree and she despises Latinx as a term (can't even pronounce it in Spanish she says). I mean, the whole """Latinx""" thing is just non Latino whites replacing a Spanish word (Latino) with an English word, then telling the demographic it refers to to use this English word to refer to themselves I have no idea how this dynamic doesn't manage to piss off…
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#179All this stuff comes from "critical discourse analysis", a pseudointellectual and almost cult-like movement within academic research, which is receiving no pushback because no one knows about it. People are too busy focusing on the end-product (this Stanford webpage, or some politicians' tweets, or a Smithsonian exhibit) rather than the root cause. Ridding academia of pseudoscience goes beyond fixing p-hacking. These…
It's impossible to address the true root cause, at least, not in a politically correct way. Some people are simply incapable of producing good quality research that is repeatable. Or just can't quite cut it in technical fields [0]. These initiatives around "inclusive language" and "bias" are just a way for these folks to keep the academic grift going on longer.
It's political suicide to talk against these people or question the validity of their research because they won't hesitate to band against someone to "cancel" him or her [1] (and it's essential for their survival; since there's no proof of what they are pushing, it's impossible to defend otherwise!).
[0] https://syncedreview.com/2020/06/30/yann-lecun-quits-twitter...
[1] https://www.boston.com/news/college/2021/10/07/chicago-profe...
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#180Ah but then I read this (first line in the article):
The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI) is a multi-phase, multi-year project to address harmful language in IT at Stanford.
So this is just a restrained group of people. Not sure why is this posted here anyway.