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Re: Apple Music Sing

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Post by dehrmann »

joegahona wrote: post #5

Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

My guess is it's not licensed for public performance, so they don't want to give anyone any ideas.

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Post by reaperducer »

Thorrez wrote: post #153
akiselev wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS > Settings > Accessibility > Live Captions (beta) > Toggle Live Captions

That makes sense when there's audio that Apple hasn't seen before. With Apple Music Sing, it makes more sense to do that processing once in the datacenter.

it makes more sense to do that processing once in the datacenter.

Since Apple is all about on-device processing with so many of its features, going back-and-forth to the data center doesn't seem to be its style these days.

That's more of a Google thing.

And no one can accuse Apple of telling its advertisers that you start your day with Funky Cold Medina.

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Post by Rallen89 »

madelyn-goodman wrote: post #158

I"m curious if artists can opt out of their songs being included in those that have these capabilities. This seems like another way that a streaming service is exploiting artists to me. It's cool technology definitely, but there are some problematic implications for sure.

I'm sure the contracts they signed were long and covered every contingency

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Post by ddoolin »

What I really want is lyrics on CarPlay. I'm sure there would be a ton of huffing in here about distracted driving, but...well, I don't care! I'd really just use it for confirmation of a word or phrase on a small handful of songs myself. It would be great for passengers, though.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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Post by ultrarunner »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #152
pilsetnieks wrote: post #8

> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

What's worse is that the Apple Music app on Mac doesn't even have lyrics (and is ridiculously bad in many other ways). It feels like they are slowly abandoning the platform.

It does in the MiniPlayer

Re: Apple Music Sing

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Post by layer8 »

notpushkin wrote: post #75

People will definitely rip no-vocal versions out of there (if they are good quality, that is). I see some pretty neat implications: - Young artists can (illegally) use beats by popular producers. Young producers can listen to various tracks and better understand some techniques that were shadowed by vocals before. - More bootleg remixes of popular tracks. Things that weren't possible by just slicing and sampling the…

I wouldn’t expect the ML-based real-time vocals removal to be high-quality enough for those use cases. It’s a really difficult task, and it doesn’t have to be high-quality to be adequate for karaoke. The press release also says "The vocal slider adjusts vocal volume, but does not fully remove vocals".

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Post by misterprime »

joegahona wrote: post #5

Is this akin to karaoke? (The word never appears on the page.) > Apple today announced Apple Music Sing, an exciting new feature that allows users to sing along to their favorite songs with adjustable vocals1 and real-time lyrics. Users can already "sing along to their favorite songs" -- this feels like a wasted opportunity in the first sentence to explain the differentiator. It feels like they're misusing/misunderst…

The at-home karaoke experience is pretty horrible. Companies put a high price tag on access to limited catalogs with hit and miss quality. Oftentimes, the musical bed is low quality midi music and the lyrics may or may not be timed properly.

I'm thrilled to see this announcement and will likely buy my first Apple TV because of it and switch my Pandora subscription to Apple Music.

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Post by rfreiberger »

I'm not sure if this is the same as the DJ apps that remove vocals and other instruments but there seems to be a surge of apps that have this feature. It's impressive how well some of these work and I believe they are mostly based on an open source project (I can't recall the name).

Re: Apple Music Sing

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Post by acdha »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #152
pilsetnieks wrote: post #8

> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

What's worse is that the Apple Music app on Mac doesn't even have lyrics (and is ridiculously bad in many other ways). It feels like they are slowly abandoning the platform.

It does support Lyrics: Control-Command-U will toggle display.

If you use the Help menu's search feature it will direct you to the “Show Lyrics” option, too.

Re: Apple Music Sing

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Post by layer8 »

crazygringo wrote: post #31
pilsetnieks wrote: post #8

> and can be enjoyed on iPhone, iPad, and the new Apple TV 4K But the old Apple TV 4K is not powerful enough for displaying text on a TV, even though any old iPhone is? I get that they want to push device and service adoption but they should pick a lane, either push users to upgrade devices, or push to sign up to paid services. Pushing for both at the same time is greedy.

It's not explicit, but from the descriptions it seems to suggest it's performing recognition of the audio streams of what's being sung, and even supports dual streams for duets. So I wouldn't be surprised if it relies on a particular hardware chip that the older Apple TV simply doesn't have. That has definitely been the case for everything Apple has launched with regards to Spatial Audio.

They may also use ML to sync the lyrics to the vocals, meaning they don’t need prior timestamp metadata for the syllables.
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