Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 353 posts

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#171

Post by wesleywt »

paul_f wrote: post #118
mschuster91 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even without vaccines, the current covid strain is not even that harmful. Among the unvaccinated (of which there still exist a shocking amount), it absolutely is harmful. Even amongst the triple or quadruple vaccinated, it can be dangerous. My s/o's sense of smell was impacted for months, we were out of work for two weeks - but a friend of ours for six months and she's still not at the performance mentally that she…

This is nonsense. Omicron is quite mild compared to the original strain. Death rates from COVID in western countries is now minimal. Time to move on

After years of covid we still are getting ignorant comments like this.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#172

Post by wesleywt »

dreckigeZecke wrote: post #133
mschuster91 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even without vaccines, the current covid strain is not even that harmful. Among the unvaccinated (of which there still exist a shocking amount), it absolutely is harmful. Even amongst the triple or quadruple vaccinated, it can be dangerous. My s/o's sense of smell was impacted for months, we were out of work for two weeks - but a friend of ours for six months and she's still not at the performance mentally that she…

[flagged]

This is completely insane.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#173

Post by yreg »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #166
progrus wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider what happens to peoples’ immune systems when you box them up in quarantine and spray them with disinfectant every day for a few years. It won’t be only COVID-19 popping when that artificial suppression ends. RSV, influenza, etc.

What does disinfectant accomplish against respiratory viruses? I thought it was just for show.

You don't rub them into your face.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#174

Post by tiahura »

disantlor wrote: post #152
rjzzleep wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't really know much at all. Comment from CNBC: "It was not immediately clear whether the protests reached a meaningful scale in a country of 1.4 billion people, or whether a wide demographic participated" I've seen pro government social media commentators say that the second half of the Foxconn worker statement was not reported by western media, but I won't pretend I know one way or the other. Given that just y…

So you saw one comment about the situation in China, spoke to a Japanese man about an unrelated topic, and now have an opinion on East Asians?

He probably forgot to mention that he also spoke to a Korean guy about fans.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#175

Post by WiSaGaN »

spoiler wrote: post #149
WiSaGaN wrote: post #147

This is such a ridiculous claim and also extremely easy to debunk if you have any friends in China they will show you immediately this is false. Yet not a single one comment mentions it. Goes to show the level of discourse happen in the west about anything china related.

There are multiple examples from different Tweet authors confirming that crowds aren't being shown. Can you post anything (other than unfunded claims) to refute these? Edit: my comment can come of as aggressive, but I'm genuinely curious, didn't mean to attack you

I just went back to the first full match broadcasted by CCTV, and made screenshots just for you: https://ibb.co/2MJrnWk https://ibb.co/c3Zcq3S Initially they claim all fans are blurred. Now they claim close-ups are not shown. I am pretty sure that they will claim it's specific matches that don't have close-ups later.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#176

Post by gadders »

mschuster91 wrote: post #34
bananapear wrote: post #14

What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?

> What is the CCP’s exit strategy? For a long time, a combination of lockdowns and mass vaccination to keep the virus at bay at home and hope that the West would follow suit out of its own interests - which did work reasonably well for a long time in China, but collapsed with Omicron as Sinovac and the other domestic vaccines were/are ineffective against it and its sub-lines and they had gone all-in way too early in…

>> Additionally, Western governments lost the popular support for COVID containment measures after the second or third waves (begin of 2021) thanks to Russia-backed misinformation campaigns, which led to a ton of deaths and the development and spread of Omicron.

Is it Russian misinformation causing Chinese people to rebel against containment measures?

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#177

Post by yreg »

throwoutway wrote: post #168
DriftRegion wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a recent commentary from a WeChat group (translated via deepl): > The current situation is that Western water forces, through insidious and poisonous means such as the Internet, have created a very dangerous atmosphere of public opinion and incited the people to rebellion. If we are deceived and held hostage by these rumors, what China will end up with will only be a disaster. We have to believe that the count…

“Wants an early end”? That must be propaganda because it should be obvious to a lay person that it started in late 2019. China government has been trying for 3 years to “have an early end”

Wait until you read to "We believe that the Party and the government will be able to lead the people of China to work together to overcome the epidemic! China will win! [fist][fist][fist]".

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#178

Post by WiSaGaN »

ctvo wrote: post #150
WiSaGaN wrote: post #147

This is such a ridiculous claim and also extremely easy to debunk if you have any friends in China they will show you immediately this is false. Yet not a single one comment mentions it. Goes to show the level of discourse happen in the west about anything china related.

Are you saying this is false and crowd shots are still shown? Are you in China right now?

You don't need to be in China to dubunk those. You just need to do some independant research easily, say by visiting the CCTV video site. Knowing some Chinese helps, but it won't stop anyone who is determined to find the truth.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

#180

Post by netsharc »

Altho00 wrote: post #110
andybak wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but what "knowledge" would be relevant at this stage? The virus has been through multiple rounds of mutation and has been well-studied. The amount of things that are a) possible to discern before it was released c) a surprise to the scientific community and c) is still applicable feels like it would be very small - barring sci-fi scenarios.

As someone with no deep knowledge in virology, epidemiology or even biology, I tend to agree with you. However I also understand how having the virus originating from China , maybe, or maybe not, from a lab leak, and having china so hell bent on a 0 covid policy going so far as boarding and ceiling the doors of appartment buildings might be frightening even if the virus has been well studied. Let's say you're the hea…

That is quite a terrible analogy. In the real world, one can logically guess why the CCP's acting "weird" (general political cluelessness, wanting to save face), but in your analogy there are not a lot of other possible explanations to the weird behaviors.

God, the last few days HN has disappointed me more and more...

Post reply on HN