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I disagree with this. For me, the energy is because I have to use less energy doing basic day to day shit. Unmedicated, it takes far more effort and work, and leaves less energy for later tasks.

It’s amphetamine. The energy is from the amphetamine. The mechanism of action (norepinephrine and dopamine reputable inhibition) isn’t far from that of cocaine or methamphetamine. Let’s be real here. Amphetamine is known to skew one’s self assessment of their performance while on the drug.

not everyone on ADHD medication is on amphetamine. methylphenidate and clonidine are other treatment options.

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Hey, I'm in exactly the same place, including the specific drug. It sucks though how much volatility there can be day to day if I'm not totally on top of taking it early enough, or get a bad sleep. Today my day was frontloaded with meetings, and then I just needed to peace out for a bit and try to get back on track with programming... now. Do you struggle with that as well? My boss truly doesn't seem to have a concep…

Hey! I struggle a lot with what I call mixed modal days. I try hard to combine all my meetings into a day and have days of quiet. Because when I’m on concerta, not only do I lose my charm and social skills that make me super comfortable in a room of C-levels, but it does the opposite. I’m jittery and nervous and second guess any time I’m about to open my mouth. One thing that’s helped me with modal switches through t…

Have you tried the amphetamine line of medication? Lesser modal switches are why I prefer them

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As someone who is also battling ADHD, I feel super anxious reading the comments here all talking about X and Y medicine, which I am super not wanting to do. I used to do therapy but I found my therapist was making videos on Facebook about a few things I told him (though I was never named but I felt this was a huge breach of trust). I exercise quite a bit. (lots of cardio and core exercises, I particularly enjoy barbe…

Hi, (First of all, that's some scheisse with your ex-therapist! What a narcissistic loser)

I've managed without diagnosis, medication or specific therapy for most of my life and I've struggled but like many with a late diagnosis I was able to compensate with intelligence and wits.

It is often said that ADHD treatment has three pillars, which don't always have to come together to work: Psychotherapy, Psychoeducation, Medical Treatment.

Psychotherapy is the professional help you can get to identify your patterns of behavior that might make your situation worse and change them (and probably more).

Psychoeducation is your own learning about the condition which can be supported by therapy session but consists a lot of reading books/articles, listening to podcasts etc. Support groups can be of great help, too. They exist online and offline and you should feel comfortable with the group you find. All of these are what helped me the most.

Medication helped me, as well but only really after I properly started learning about the condition. Some people report revolutionary effects but it's moderate for me. I also had to try a few different medications and doses, which is quite common and very individual. It can also change.

There are many that share your reluctance against taking meds and ultimately, all serious therapists and support groups will support that. However, they might want to talk to you about your reasons for not wanting to try the effect at least. A reason is, that they can often be a jump start for successful therapy because they can reduce the primary symptoms of ADHD (like inattentiveness) and let you work better on the secondary symptoms (e.g. low self-esteem), both of which differ from person to person. Even if you decide going without meds, it's a good step to know what's your concept of yourself and your mind and how meds would interact with that because it gives you a better understanding of your personal situation.

I hope that helped a bit even though I didn't go into how I managed myself before the diagnosis in my late 20s. It's been rough, to say the least. It still is but I have learned a lot about myself that lets me accept myself more easily for who I am (a sentence I would have laughed about in the years before). And that in turn makes everything a bit easier.

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The fact that everyone is diagnosed with adhd and then given amphetamines is going to be the medical scandal of this century. I have several friends who have become unbearable due to being constantly high, one of them quit their job and is now unemployed and alone, unable to function in crowds. Of course they all report that they feel great on the speed!

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I diagnosed when I was like... 8 years old. From then to 17 I was on various meds, finally gave them all up. So for about 22 years I've coped with ADHD without meds. I am a Staff Engineer and make a good living, respected in my field. Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get di…

Diagnosed with 25 or so, ADD however. Amphetamines made me even more guilt to function as a super human. And they would make me moody.

I stopped and changed my work environment as well as my self pressure. I can be super functional and motivated sometimes, if I give myself enough time to get there.

However, my partner is taking meds for her ADHD and for her it's honestly a life changer.

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I diagnosed when I was like... 8 years old. From then to 17 I was on various meds, finally gave them all up. So for about 22 years I've coped with ADHD without meds. I am a Staff Engineer and make a good living, respected in my field. Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get di…

As a noob, can you guys give me an idea of what it is to live with ADHD? My understanding is that focus is a spectrum and different people are on different spots on that spectrum. I always imagine that something becomes a condition and gets a name (like ADHD) once it becomes an issue in your life and prevents you from functioning in society. When I hear that you're a staff engineer it sorts of tells me that it's not…

It's like hearing a lot of noises up close and loud but then noticing they are far away. They distract you. The clock ticking. The tap dripping. The person on the other side of the office eating crisps. Ok, turn back to your desk and focus. Got to finish this task.

"Hey John, did you fix that problem with the DB log crash?"

You look up, realize John and the boss are on the other side of the room and you are not part of the discussion.

You put your mind back to that task. Reading the product documentation, "click click, someone across from you taps their keyboard" ... wow, you noticed that 1 hour 30 minutes suddenly passed but you do not recall much of the documentation you just read.

Getting back to it.. a friend messages you a funny joke on whatsapp. 20 minutes of chit chat go by and you realize most of your team already left the office to go home.

There are also other things like fatigue. You'll be able to force yourself to keep up but it takes a toll and eventually you fatigue. Productivity then drops massively and people think you are a slacker.

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I diagnosed when I was like... 8 years old. From then to 17 I was on various meds, finally gave them all up. So for about 22 years I've coped with ADHD without meds. I am a Staff Engineer and make a good living, respected in my field. Regardless of anything else, I think the key thing to remember about ADHD is that you do not need to be a high-performing human being, at all, in life. You will forget things and get di…

I was diagnosed when I was six, and, like you, I dropped all meds at 17. Recently (as in, this year) through a combination of therapy and introspection, I realized that while indeed I was able to have a successful life, career, relationships without the medication, and that, yes, my coping mechanisms were satisfactory, I was punching myself in the face for no reason Last month I saw a psychiatrist and got a prescript…

Without meds, the constant feeling was that life was moving a little faster than me. I had to put a lot of effort just to stay apace, and taking a day off means having a day and a half of stuff to do tomorrow.

I don't need meds to live. I need meds not to feel hollow in my soul. If I think about doing something that is meaningful, I need my meds to up and do it. Otherwise it's living the life of someone with really great plans that are unable to leave their head. It is hellish.

Now I have 35 unmedicated years to catch up to.

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I was diagnosed when I was six, and, like you, I dropped all meds at 17. Recently (as in, this year) through a combination of therapy and introspection, I realized that while indeed I was able to have a successful life, career, relationships without the medication, and that, yes, my coping mechanisms were satisfactory, I was punching myself in the face for no reason Last month I saw a psychiatrist and got a prescript…

One interesting point about stimulant meds: they also help people who don't have the ADHD diagnosis. The black market for stimulants is pretty sizeable, not to mention the legit market for things like coffee.

Some people who do black market stimulants are essentially just self medicating. Both is not black and white.

My partner always had a thing for amphetamines, and was more functional under influence. It just took a doctor to confirm and subscribe them to suddenly make it legal. I could not say the same about myself, amphetamines just make me more awake but not more functional.

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I'm curious... Are these not things virtually everyone struggles with to some degree? There are no end to time management books and people who wish they would spend less time on their phones/playing video games/etc.

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That's not ADHD. That's normal.

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Has anyone here used InFlow (the app mentioned in the article)? Curious to hear your experiences if you have.

I noped out as soon as I saw it wanted a yearly subscription to activate a week-long 'free' trial. I didn't trust myself to remember to cancel it in time and was disgusted at them weaponizing this dark pattern against ADHDers, so that was it for me. If you go to the Play Store and search for the one-star reviews there are loads of people saying the same. And also for those that did try it, that it's mostly useless an…

Same. And the form to "personalize" your experience is a dark pattern to lead you to commit to this. It's used by the porn and gambling industries to increase conversation and I wouldn't trust a healthcare company using it.
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