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The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by midoridensha »

synu wrote: post #170
ryandrake wrote: post #154

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You're getting really unfairly dunked on for a sensible point. The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does, and what televised sports unarguably does is relentlessly slather its consumers' eyes with advertisements--and also shows some sportsball every once in a while, between those ads. Saying "I like televised sports but not ads" doesn't make a lot of sense. The entire purpose of televised sports, the only reason for it…

Would you be amazed if I told you I could connect you with someone right now who would tell you they enjoy tv sports and would like them even better without ads?

Ads are an inseparable part of the experience with professional sportsball. You can't have the sport without the ads, so it's like complaining that you like watching NASCAR races in-person from front-row seats, and that you love the gas-guzzling carbureted engines they use, but you don't like all the noise from the engines and tires and wish they were all silent. Sure, you can wish for that, but the laws of physics prevent it. It's the same here; the ads are an inseparable part of the experience.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by Brian-Puccio »

yawn wrote: post #23
vel0city wrote: post #4

The digital boards in hockey can get really annoying even when they're working as intended. Animating them should definitely be banned and I wouldn't mind seeing the digital ads disappear entirely.

I was shocked as a non-hockey fan to see an ad of a car driving along the wall during active play. My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck. It was gross. As an NBA fan, I hate how ads keep getting crammed into every piece of equipment on the court, the jerseys, etc.

> My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck.

At some marketing meeting this was brought up and was promptly considers a feature, not a bug.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by frogpelt »

josephg wrote: post #165
ryandrake wrote: post #154

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You're getting really unfairly dunked on for a sensible point. The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does, and what televised sports unarguably does is relentlessly slather its consumers' eyes with advertisements--and also shows some sportsball every once in a while, between those ads. Saying "I like televised sports but not ads" doesn't make a lot of sense. The entire purpose of televised sports, the only reason for it…

Humans aren't money-optimizing machines. And we don't watch (or play) sport to watch ads. Companies can try to optimize for profit, but too much focus on the bottom line corrodes just about anything else the company wants to do in the world. And ultimately, the most profitable companies are usually the ones who make a profit on the road of caring deeply about something else. (Eg, Steve Jobs' - who cared about making…

You would only watch sport in person if it wasn't for ads. ESPN and TNT ain't paying the NBA billions for the TV deals so they can not sell ads.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by midoridensha »

AlexandrB wrote: post #135
canucker2016 wrote: post #75

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It's even worse when the hockey players' white uniforms confuse the video effect algorithm into thinking the uniforms are part of the board and the algorithm paints the uniform with part of the ad. see https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-fans-are-already-fed-up...

> "Like anything else, you're going to have your people that don't like it, that think it is difficult to watch. But over time, like everything else, people will get used to it, and we're not concerned at all whatsoever," Keith Wachtel, the NHL's chief business officer and executive vice president of global partnerships, told ESPN ahead of the season. Wow. That statement is dripping with contempt for their viewers. I…

>It sucks that these huge sports leagues have little in the way of competition.

Of course they do: people could spend their time doing (or watching) something else. Watch a TV show or movie, read a book, listen to some music, practice playing an instrument, cook some food, write a software program, go on a walk; there's endless things to do with your time besides watching sports. If you don't like the ads and the contempt for viewers from the people running the sports leagues, then stop giving them your time and attention.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by synu »

midoridensha wrote: post #171
synu wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be amazed if I told you I could connect you with someone right now who would tell you they enjoy tv sports and would like them even better without ads?

Ads are an inseparable part of the experience with professional sportsball. You can't have the sport without the ads, so it's like complaining that you like watching NASCAR races in-person from front-row seats, and that you love the gas-guzzling carbureted engines they use, but you don't like all the noise from the engines and tires and wish they were all silent. Sure, you can wish for that, but the laws of physics p…

So saying something like “I like the modern internet for the most part but not the ads” would in your opinion be a similarly nonsensical statement?

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by yafbum »

synu wrote: post #167
yafbum wrote: post #119

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“I like something except this part” is not coherent?

The entire business model of sports entertainment ventures like NBA is built around advertising. Saying I'm a fan of the NBA except for the ads is a bit like saying I'm a big fan of credit cards except for that part where you have to pay the bill.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by synu »

yafbum wrote: post #176
synu wrote: post #167

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“I like something except this part” is not coherent?

The entire business model of sports entertainment ventures like NBA is built around advertising. Saying I'm a fan of the NBA except for the ads is a bit like saying I'm a big fan of credit cards except for that part where you have to pay the bill.

I personally wouldn’t agree that the only possible reaction to anything ad-supported is to like the ads, or else you are making some kind of logical or category error. The existence of ad blockers on the internet for example seems to indicate that not only do some people quite dislike the ads, they even spend time and energy to actually do something about it.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by HWR_14 »

paulcole wrote: post #113
kibwen wrote: post #108

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What makes you think I'm at all happy with the advertising here? As I said: advertising is a blight. In the meantime, I'm happy to exploit the false generosity of advertisers to denounce their practices on their own platforms. I'm unclear why you thought this was a counterargument?

You may say you’re unhappy with it, but your actions say you’ve been contributing heavily here for 11 years. You support something that you think is a blight because you don’t think this is a blight. Just like every HN commenter who thinks they hate ads, the truth is they hate the ads they hate and (at best) pretend the other ads aren’t ads. Also I really like ads and am quite stupid so that might explain why I thoug…

> they hate the ads they hate and (at best) pretend the other ads aren’t ads.

Alternatively, you could have an ad-blocking browser and not see the ads at all.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by midoridensha »

derekp7 wrote: post #24
maskros wrote: post #18

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That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

Now all Youtube needs is to give the content creator the ability to disable the fast forward / skip 10 second buttons at specified portions of the video (in return for a fee of course).

They could try that, but browser extensions like Enhancer for YouTube will fix it.

Also, you can just download the video with youtube-dl and watch it that way.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by Godel_unicode »

midoridensha wrote: post #174
AlexandrB wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Like anything else, you're going to have your people that don't like it, that think it is difficult to watch. But over time, like everything else, people will get used to it, and we're not concerned at all whatsoever," Keith Wachtel, the NHL's chief business officer and executive vice president of global partnerships, told ESPN ahead of the season. Wow. That statement is dripping with contempt for their viewers. I…

>It sucks that these huge sports leagues have little in the way of competition. Of course they do: people could spend their time doing (or watching) something else . Watch a TV show or movie, read a book, listen to some music, practice playing an instrument, cook some food, write a software program, go on a walk; there's endless things to do with your time besides watching sports. If you don't like the ads and the co…

I assume you’re similarly unbothered by googles domination of search because rather than searching for information you could be baking a cake?
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