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Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

robenkleene wrote: post #30

The trick of Figma claims another. I see Mighty as part of the broader trend of folks thinking Figma it the leading edge of a wider transition to web apps across all creative work. But all forms of coding and media editing (the main tasks that are truly CPU/GPU-bound, the area where something like Mighty would help) have remained as local desktop app affairs. I think what really happened is folks misinterpreted the s…

> This means what really powered Figma's takeover was that flat design took over, which is less technically demanding.

Absolutely 100%. The other thing is that flat design brought a lot of low quality designers into the market because you could just add a few recommended spacing grids and flat colours and get a design out. But because the quality often was low, it forced collaboration for cross checking and that caused Figma and other software to come to the forefront.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by renewiltord »

ly3xqhl8g9 wrote: post #145
modeless wrote: post #41

Looking at tweets like [1] it seems like their original bet was that server single core performance would dramatically outpace client single core performance. Honestly even if that had happened I still don't think their product would have made sense. The hosting cost and bandwidth/latency requirements would still have killed it. The death of this product is a good sign for computing overall. The more of computing tha…

The product, "compute pixels on powerful machine -> render on thin client", makes much more sense if you don't try to monetize by being a cloud landlord, but you let the users own that powerful machine, make money through hardware, and help them with the software, make money through support, no subscriptions, no rent-seeking. Think at the level of a family: 2 parents, 2 children which means: 4 smartphones, 2÷3 laptop…

That character is what I'd use for"x divided by y". Is it common use somewhere to use it for "between x and y inclusive"

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by runako »

tpush wrote: post #133
robenkleene wrote: post #30

The trick of Figma claims another. I see Mighty as part of the broader trend of folks thinking Figma it the leading edge of a wider transition to web apps across all creative work. But all forms of coding and media editing (the main tasks that are truly CPU/GPU-bound, the area where something like Mighty would help) have remained as local desktop app affairs. I think what really happened is folks misinterpreted the s…

What's Figma got to with any of this? Figma is local compute just as much as any native app. This is not about web vs. native but client-side vs. server-side rendering & compute.

Figma is really slow on older computers. If your laptop is (say) 4 years old, it's entirely likely that Figma is not usable on it and so something like Mighty might make sense. But then when your power supply goes out and you replace the old laptop with even the cheapest Mac, suddenly you don't need Mighty anymore.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by Beldin »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #67
modeless wrote: post #41

Looking at tweets like [1] it seems like their original bet was that server single core performance would dramatically outpace client single core performance. Honestly even if that had happened I still don't think their product would have made sense. The hosting cost and bandwidth/latency requirements would still have killed it. The death of this product is a good sign for computing overall. The more of computing tha…

My primary feeling is that I think technical people drastically overestimate the pain that most "normal" people experience when it comes to browser performance. I see it all the time on HN, e.g. people bitching about the amount of RAM Electron apps take and the like. Who cares? The average user certainly doesn't. If anything, 98% of the time when I experience browser performance issues it's network-latency related, o…

98% of performance problems on my machine are traceable to a crappy Electron video communication app (skype) eating 4 cores and still having hiccups galore. Switching to a different app usually fixes the issue.

I'm pretty sure the average user cares about "hey this app sucks, but this other app gives me the same functionality without issue".

You can hope they never discover other apps for work-from-home, but frankly, if that's your business model, you're doing it wrong.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by jon-wood »

dmarcos wrote: post #128
beebeepka wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My only use for chromium is youtube. I only watch a handful of channels but things are getting ridiculous. Sometimes I get ads every minute. Every minute! Just the other day I got served 5 ads in a row after a simple fast forward. I gave up TV more than 20 years ago and this crap is way worse. What can I do without letting them in my actual browser? These people are crazy.

I highly recommend Youtube Premium. Also heard from creators that they get paid more from Premium views than from free accounts.

This, as much as people may moan, is the answer. Either that or go subscribe to Nebula or whatever not-YouTube platform your favourite YouTube channels are publishing to.

Content production costs money, in some cases vast amounts of it, and while advertising is a terrible solution to that just not paying is an even worse one. If everyone blocks ads then nobody gets paid, and nothing gets produced.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by benjaminwootton »

GordonS wrote: post #170
stephc_int13 wrote: post #166

Suhail blocked me on Twitter some time ago as I was a bit vocal in my opposition to the core idea behind this app. I think it was already dead at the time and the criticism got under his skin. I wish there was a way to make money by shorting bad ideas. I think I could easily fund a few companies by doing that on weekends.

> I wish there was a way to make money by shorting bad ideas That's a great idea for a startup, VCs would be falling over themselves for a piece!

I wish there was a way to short this short startup startup…

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by dinvlad »

bitwize wrote: post #150
dinvlad wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, desktop Intel/AMD chips still beat M1, and are more versatile for gaming etc.

When it comes to single core, M1 smokes EVERYTHING. And browser performance is gated by single core performance.

Is there some data to confirm that? Both AMD and Intel just came out with their new 5Ghz+ CPUs. I doubt that even M2 is faster.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by BonoboIO »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #176
GordonS wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish there was a way to make money by shorting bad ideas That's a great idea for a startup, VCs would be falling over themselves for a piece!

I wish there was a way to short this short startup startup…

A wild SoftBank appears

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Post by davidivadavid »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #115
ivoryloom wrote: post #2

I was skeptical about Mighty but seeing gaming platforms moving to streaming, PG endorsing this as the future, I thought I was just not getting it. Maybe I should trust myself more.

PG endorsing a technology is a sure way to know that it has no future.

Yeah it's almost like people are collectively waking up to the fact that VCs are not actually that smart because their whole business model is predicated on being wrong 90+% of the time (which to be fair they've been explicitly saying forever). Now they're connecting the dots and realizing that the other 10% are just luck (and a well timed bull market).
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