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phpisthebest wrote: post #158
mjr00 wrote: post #20

> But, what is gone? Twitter was a unique spot where journalists, celebrities, titans of industries, your family, friends and co-workers, would join a daily mosh pit filled with a mix of truly important cultural moments and the most inane things you’ve ever seen. [...] Twitter will likely go from Elon’s new toy that is too difficult for him to play with, to being passed on to his legal and finance advisers to sort ou…

>>but the vast majority of the userbase is on the mobile website or app. proving that the world truly is insane, I use old reddit on mobile as well as new reddit is more or less unusable on a mobile browser they hard force you in to their terrible app. If I need a mobile app I use a 3rd party app as the offical app is TERRIBLE When/if they kill old.reddit is the say I stop using reddit, I would say my usage is alread…

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fdsafdewe wrote: post #148

>Twitter was a unique spot where journalists.... It's telling that "journalists" was put first. I've heard many times that Twitter is "useful" to journalists, who I assume feel like they have their finger on the world's pulse. It might explain why so many news stories include random opinions from unknown Twitter users, and why they are so out of touch with (at least my) reality.

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Post by grammers »

mjr00 wrote: post #20

> But, what is gone? Twitter was a unique spot where journalists, celebrities, titans of industries, your family, friends and co-workers, would join a daily mosh pit filled with a mix of truly important cultural moments and the most inane things you’ve ever seen. [...] Twitter will likely go from Elon’s new toy that is too difficult for him to play with, to being passed on to his legal and finance advisers to sort ou…

> Regardless of your opinion on Elon, it's simply too early to conclude that this is "likely" to happen, or that all those people will stop using it.

Exactly, these people use it for their own exposure/benefit. If it harms them if they stop, they will not stop.

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Post by meheleventyone »

longrod wrote: post #155

I think this is nothing except shitposting. The whole blog reads like an angry rant of someone who didn't get what he wanted. This is not new. Layoffs are not a new thing. New management, new rules, it's always been like this. Do I feel sorry for the people who got layed off? Of course I do! I wouldn't want to be them right now. I feel for them. But the consequences mentioned in this post is completely unreasonable.…

> Musk is not an idiot. He must know exactly what he needs to do.

How does this square with the attempts to get out of the deal? I think your points would make a lot more sense if he hadn’t signalled extremely clearly that he thought the deal was terrible.

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Post by woooooo »

WorldMaker wrote: post #119
tptacek wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. Essentializing incompetence, implying that he's incompetent at everything, that's foolish. But the supposition that he's incapable of being incompetent at Twitter because of his successes elsewhere has already been disproven.

It's possibly not that foolish depending on how hard you believe the Peter Principle applies to billionaires. Musk didn't start Tesla, he swooped in and meddled exactly like Twitter, because he had extra money and wanted to swing it around. Is picking a good bet, one that survives your meddling, a skill or just luck? It's possible to believe the Peter Principle applies and it was entirely luck.

He came in years before the first car was shipped and, like, 15? years before they got to sustained profitability with their third-gen cars.

I'm not trying to dickride the guy, obviously a lot of people contributed, but this literally just happened and we all saw it. How are people rewriting it successfully?

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Post by liveoneggs »

Twitter is given an outsized and undeserved amount of attention. It has over-powered a tiny minority of users to get vastly over-represented and repeated to the rest of the people who don't give a damn about it.

If you don't like twitter stop using it and stop taking "news" about tweets seriously, because they are not serious.

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Post by ricardo81 »

d23 wrote: post #168
infamouscow wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is correct if the strongest rebuttal to the argument being put forward is semantic pedantry. You can spot stupid[*] replies miles away when there's no attempt to engage with the substance of the argument. [*]: Yes, stupid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc

The entire argument rests on a calculation that a third grader can see is absurd.

Sorry pal, did someone reveal what X was to you? Guess it's a bit like the Twitter algo then.

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Post by r00fus »

deckard1 wrote: post #129
kenhwang wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertising is a human problem. I think Elon is already feeling the blowback from immediately misunderstanding it based on this tweet[1]. It's going to be interesting to see how he intends on making up that $5b/year. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

> Extremely messed up! They’re trying to destroy free speech in America. this reads like a Trump quote. People are free to use their speech to pressure advertisers into dropping Twitter. Or, rather, "voting" with their wallet.

Definitely some "Trump at home" energy (to use a standard meme).

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Post by btbuildem »

mjr00 wrote: post #20

> But, what is gone? Twitter was a unique spot where journalists, celebrities, titans of industries, your family, friends and co-workers, would join a daily mosh pit filled with a mix of truly important cultural moments and the most inane things you’ve ever seen. [...] Twitter will likely go from Elon’s new toy that is too difficult for him to play with, to being passed on to his legal and finance advisers to sort ou…

I think the prediction of "it will go down" is more related to the fact that Twitter (like any company with a web-facing product and a large userbase) is basically a sieve of a boat with a team constantly bailing out the water, frantically plugging holes as new ones appear -- and the new management is firing most of the team. From that perspective, yes it's likely to simultaneously catch fire and sink.
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