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Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I understand that he has been publicly combative with all the executives; but is it a practical to fire all those key executives right away? Specially, do they not contain any specifically useful knowledge or experience that you should make an attempt at creating a collaborative transition? Is this how these kinds of acquisitions of public companies happen? Isn’t this effectively freezing all significant activities f…

Musk is CEO now. He doesn't need another one.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I think he understands that, as indicated by https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728 That doesn't sound like someone burning Twitter to the ground. Also, many are acting like Musk has free rein in running the company. Yes and no. Beyond needing employees to actually run the thing, he also has loans to pay back ($13B!) and investors to maintain good relationships with. More on that here: https…

I'm very skeptical of the idea that Twitter can become a place where people discuss things with civility. It seems like the mechanics of the conversation encourage outrage.

The mechanics of most social media platforms encourage outrage.

1. Most are optimizing to maximize user engagement, and it seems like most platforms have concluded that emotionally charged hot takes are the best way to keep the feed scrolling and the likes and shares flowing.

2. Most don't have the small communities or active moderation necessary to build a culture of civility. (HN is an outlier, though even here I think there are still some topics where the site becomes echo chamber-y.)

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post #44

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Brain drains usually happen due to low or uncompetitive pay, not because of corporate ideology. Otherwise Facebook/Meta would have had a brain drain years ago.

I think I will disagree here. Admittedly, I base this on anecdata only, but among my work colleagues, political affinity got weirdly important. To me it is odd, because I genuinely doubt that outside outliers like Ben and Jerry, companies care about anything other than their specific bottom line ( and policies supporting it ).

Still, no real data to back that claim up though.

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I think the thing to watch will be ads and other revenue streams. Most companies aren't going to want their ads next to 'free for all' content, so we'll see what happens.

I agree. I think he understands that, as indicated by https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728 That doesn't sound like someone burning Twitter to the ground. Also, many are acting like Musk has free rein in running the company. Yes and no. Beyond needing employees to actually run the thing, he also has loans to pay back ($13B!) and investors to maintain good relationships with. More on that here: https…

It's a good sentiment, but he kind of has to say that right? He just spent $44B taking this company private, if advertisers flee and it starts running at a substantial loss, it could mean financial ruin for him

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#175

He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

I'd love to see some clear examples of conservative voices being targeted solely based on ideology, cause I don't think they exist. The replies so far seem to just confirm my point. Doesn't seem like any of them were banned "solely based on ideology" at all. Come on y'all, show me one example where someone was banned for asking for lower taxes!

LibsofTiktok was banned so many times.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

> targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology. Clearly happening, yet even here already we have four people so far claiming that it doesn't, and people flagging/downvoting you for telling the truth. They banned a conservative satire publication ffs. The Babylon Bee. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." —George Orwell, 1984

So why aren't there any sources demonstrating this "clear bias" you're so sure of? There are actual numbers demonstrating pro-right-wing bias, and yet your only response is "no there isn't! I saw a right wing person get banned the other day!" How is this supposed to be convincing?

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope ads will die some day. To me they are just annoying and very rarely informative.

Where's the funding come from, then? That was not a cheap purchase.

How about charging anyone with more than X followers? Or pay to be verified? or pay for support? Supported bot accounts or corporate accounts? There are many options they could pursue. Twitter was not helped having Jack as a part-time CEO for all of those years.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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post #29

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Prediction: Twitter becomes more efficient, focused and profitable than they ever have been. And it will return to the platform neutrality and free speech ideals it had prior to 2015ish.

Very simple question - how?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

#179
post #14

Musk just tweeted this 5 mins ago: "Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes."

Ironic considering Babylon Bee was just unbanned even though they violated TOS. Also ironic that his goal was to promote free speech and painted moderation as evil. —- It is beyond me that I am downvoted for pointing the irony of the situation. So many proponents of free speech have so few regards to give for TOS and have the audacity to demand service without abiding to it. It seems that HN is no longer a bastion of…

Or The Bee went through the little Maoist Struggle Session that Twitter built to get themselves unbanned.

For those that aren't aware they were suspended but could get unsuspended by deleting their own tweet which includes an explicit admission that they're evil no good sinners as part of the process.

Which The Bee rightfully chose not to do at the time and let it lie for months.

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