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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Weirdly enough I haven't seen non-virgin olive oil in German stores.. is that an American thing?

You’ll find the store brand sometimes having a cheaper “olive oil” here in Australia, which is still 100% olive I believe but probably includes second press. But any brand name oil will basically always be virgin/“extra-virgin”.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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This works poorly when you buy something like an SD card, store something you care about on it, and then try to read it back off the card later.

Not to defend counterfeits products, but I wouldn't trust even the best SD card on earth to store something I care about.

For an SD card, “store something you care about” will very often mean photos or video. You have no choice but to trust the SD card for the time it takes you to get to your computer where you can dump the contents into something more reliable.

High end cameras usually have dual card slots to help deal with this, but even that won’t help when the failure mode is trying to write past the cards’ actual physical capacity, because the counterfeit advertise more storage than what’s actually there.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Virgin olive oil is more expensive. The most important, and well known confounding factor in observational health research is socioeconomic status - rich people live longer than poor people. This research attempted to control for it in a limited fashion, but that's not nearly enough.

This is so common in these kinds of studies that I tend to ignore them. I saw a similar one recently that linked certain types of meat and dairy consumption to longevity but didn't control for wealth. The real problem isn't diet but being poor.

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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It's crazy to me all the weird games people play with food names and sources and content that can vary from batch to batch even from "reliable" sellers when we know it's simply the polyphenols providing antioxidant mechanisms.

You can get polyphenols/antioxidants from much cheaper, easier, reliable consistent sources.

This isn't 1822 or 1922 but 2022, we should use technology to have real nutrition labels for things we eat.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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The study was in Spain were both the quality of olive oil is very high and the retail cost fairly low comparatively with the rest if the world. Also many arguably poor farmers will grow their own olive trees and distribute the oil yield among their wider family. So perhaps not so case closed as you say.

If that was true why would anyone use refined oil ?

You will have to live in Spain and know people to get high quality cheap oil. I have my own olive trees and we bring our olives to a small cooperative press; in that community the oil costs next to nothing, however, when it’s exported (and most here is for local production and is sold locally only), it is priced to what you find in the shop.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world[0] and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]

[0] Mediterranean fighting words, with no footnote for comment's boldest claim

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

California olive oil is pretty good too.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Even if you buy it from the manufacture's official Amazon store?

Thanks to Amazon comingling inventory, you can buy something from one seller and have it fulfilled from the inventory of another. There's no protection from fakes and counterfeits. Even the reviews aren't enough to be sure.

That's not necessarily true in the context of the parent comment.

It only applies to deliveries directly from Amazon and drop shipping sellers, but Amazon is essentially a marketplace and the original sellers don't have to co-mingle.

You're completely safe from co-mingleing if you're actually buying through Amazon from the original manufacturer and the article information says something like "sold and delivered by TheOriginalManufacturer"

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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If the study was done in the US, then maybe. But it was done in Spain: > 12,161 individuals, representative of the Spanish population ≥18 years old, were recruited between 2008 and 2010 and followed up through 2019. Where nobody can prepare food without olive oil. It's the law.

> Where nobody can prepare food without olive oil. It's the law. Like everywhere else, Spain is a place where virgin olive oil is more expensive than the defiled version.

Depends where they did this research: outside the big cities (Madrid and Barcelona) and especially in the south, you can find enough places outside supermarkets where you can buy extra virgin cheaper than other oils in supermarket. Especially when you buy per 5 liter from local farmers (which is what I do).

If you live there (or if the research was done there), there would be no point buying oil in the supermarket and you always have the best oil on tap for next to nothing. Hence everyone there uses it for everything.

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