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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by jon-wood »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #147
akerl_ wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I contract you to do 10 hours of a task per week, and you say you did 10 hours but actually only did 5, you faked the hours and have violated our contract.

Right, but you can only put so much control in the contract before you're not contracting. And that's going to depend on jurisdiction too. So I was hoping for a contextual overview of that tradeoff.

I think the typical line on this sort of thing is that you can contract someone for a set number of hours, but if you also dictate when those hours will be worked you’ve probably reclassified them as an employee. The other key test in the UK is the ability for a contractor to substitute themselves for another person to get the job done.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by gsk22 »

yellow_lead wrote: post #127
gsk22 wrote: post #122

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> School must get paid for. You pay for it with your taxes. It's a lifestyle choice if you want to send your kids to a private institution when public school is already covered. I hope that doesn't come across as rude, because that's not my intention. But private school is not some necessity of life that you're forced to pay for -- definitely not "literally impossible" to survive without.

Technically yes, but depending on your location your public school system may be chronically under-funded, to the point where sending your kid to a public school would put them at a big disadvantage in high school or college (and so then for the rest of their life). Yes, you could move, but as it turns out properties are more expensive in good school districts.

I'm a product of one of the shittiest public schools in my state. While I attended, they were forced by the state to convert to an "international baccalaureate" school because the alternative was closing.

I say that because yet, among my peers from that school, I count engineers, astrophysicists, doctors, IT workers, psychologists, pilots, and more.

So I would vigorously argue against the idea that students who attend underfunded public schools are at a disadvantage for life.

The biggest impact I noticed is home life and the involvement of parents. If you are a parent who cares and pushes your child, that is worth way more than the quality of the school as assigned by some ranking system.

Additionally, my exposure to a rough-and-tumble school with people of varying backgrounds (i.e., not a single socioeconomic stratum) gave me empathy and social skills that are extremely useful in everyday life.

I'm not saying your choices are wrong, but I strongly disagree with the premise that a less-than-ideal public school leads to lifelong negative consequences.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by shoulderfake »

ummonk wrote: post #107
anonreeeeplor wrote: post #81

I have three children. It is literally impossible for me to survive on any salary companies are willing to pay. I work multiple jobs. Idk the solution. It costs me $3,000 a month just for school. That’s a second mortgage. Either they increase pay 50%. Which they don’t want to do. Or I work three jobs. If they don’t like it, pay more. I actually don’t even have a choice, it isn’t even an option. School must get paid f…

Do you have a spouse? You might be worried about public school quality, but at some point it would be cheaper to just have the spouse stay at home and home school.

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Post by awillen »

hamandcheese wrote: post #157
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #146

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Having been through public school in the U.S., I would not send my own child to one if I had any other choice.

Then you went to a bad public school.

The way you say this implies that there's some easy way to move your kids from a bad public school to a good public school. This is of course laughably wrong, since moving schools requires buying a home in a nicer/more expensive area.

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Post by trollied »

nprateem wrote: post #110
trollied wrote: post #106

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IR35 is going away. It got the axe in the insane mini budget a few weeks ago.

No, the changes to it are going away, not the legislation. It'll be back on contractors to make the determination of IR35 status again

Which means it’s essentially going away. I first encountered it in 2005 when I first contracted & it has never affected me. It nearly affected me with my previous contract a couple of years ago as the business really didn’t understand it and was “playing safe” by trying to go “inside IR35” for the role, but that’s utter nonsense for a 3 month engagement such as the one I was doing. I’ve always paid employers NI etc. I don’t understand why they don’t change Ltd company dividends & up the %age for the first £100k or so - it’d effectively solve the problem they’re trying to fix (lost tax/NI revenue), without all the messing about.

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Post by yellow_lead »

gsk22 wrote: post #172
yellow_lead wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically yes, but depending on your location your public school system may be chronically under-funded, to the point where sending your kid to a public school would put them at a big disadvantage in high school or college (and so then for the rest of their life). Yes, you could move, but as it turns out properties are more expensive in good school districts.

I'm a product of one of the shittiest public schools in my state. While I attended, they were forced by the state to convert to an "international baccalaureate" school because the alternative was closing. I say that because yet, among my peers from that school, I count engineers, astrophysicists, doctors, IT workers, psychologists, pilots, and more. So I would vigorously argue against the idea that students who atten…

> The biggest impact I noticed is home life and the involvement of parents. If you are a parent who cares and pushes your child, that is worth way more than the quality of the school as assigned by some ranking system.

Agreed.

My comment is from experience as well though. A lot of my classes in HS had to be slowed down to the slowest student (no child left behind I guess), but the better students were frequently bored. I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able to take advanced classes, but I still think one's school has an impact. Exposure to certain topics or classes can certainly impact a student's life (in my opinion). For instance, high schools with a compsci class, I'm sure will have more students becoming SWEs than high schools without.

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Post by nicoburns »

b800h wrote: post #115
SllX wrote: post #75

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The guards are still usually W-2 employees; but they’re employees of the firm that’s been contracted. Referring to them as “contractors” is more a colloquialism, but it marks someone that works for an outside firm versus someone that’s in-house and on the company team, even if they work in the same office day in and day out.

Yeah, there's a big disparity between UK and US terminology here. I'm the UK, a "contractor" is typically in business on their own account, applying for jobs directly to the end client. In the US, it seems like a "contractor" frequently works for an outsourcing company. In the UK we'd typically call these people "temps" or "consultancy staff" depending on the source.

> In the US, it seems like a "contractor" frequently works for an outsourcing company. In the UK we'd typically call these people "temps" or "consultancy staff" depending on the source.

I think contractor is still used in that case in the UK sometimes too. The obvious example being construction firms.

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Post by abigail95 »

itake wrote: post #118
unendingtorment wrote: post #94

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Or maybe get vouchers or tax refund for that dumpster fire.

I think that's defeats the purpose of public school. As a society, we decided we need to collectively contribute to every child's education, regardless if they are own. I have no kids, but I pay my school taxes so that other people's children can have an education.

The purpose of a public school is the opportunity to educate children at little to no out of pocket cost. It has nothing to do with specifics of the tax system, or whether a voucher program exists.

Also, if you are American, voluntarily donating money without oversight to a local school has as much return as breast cancer awareness.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by abigail95 »

gsk22 wrote: post #172
yellow_lead wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically yes, but depending on your location your public school system may be chronically under-funded, to the point where sending your kid to a public school would put them at a big disadvantage in high school or college (and so then for the rest of their life). Yes, you could move, but as it turns out properties are more expensive in good school districts.

I'm a product of one of the shittiest public schools in my state. While I attended, they were forced by the state to convert to an "international baccalaureate" school because the alternative was closing. I say that because yet, among my peers from that school, I count engineers, astrophysicists, doctors, IT workers, psychologists, pilots, and more. So I would vigorously argue against the idea that students who atten…

If school funding has no advantage on life performance then we need to drastically cut all funding and just save the money.

That seems so unlikely to be true I can't be bothered reading the rest of your comment.

A single example of a school spending program that has positive results would collapse your argument.

Re: Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by jslaD »

raydiatian wrote: post #16

> Executives, especially in the tech industry, have said they're worried that some remote employees are distracted. “Distracted” like the time that Equifax leaked hundreds of millions of pieces of personal data. Maybe instead of blaming the workforce they should worry about making the company a place that people want to work exclusively. Equifax does not matter at all as an organization.

If Equifax leaked personal data it was because of bad security practices… the ones that are implemented by distracted workers.
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