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Good question. I’ve worked at apple and google and both like to cook their own implementation. It was AD there.
Where?
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The service is good, but really expensive and the sales tactics are sleazy. They want you paying $40/mo/head.
Azure AD Premium is $480/year per user???? What in the world do you get for that price point?
It’s hard to buy Azure AD alone, they push the EMS suite and O365 E5 to solve the security issues in O365 E3.
The way Microsoft does enterprise price bundling, this is not surprising at all.
They are insanely good at onboarding people onto it as well. I have a small startup just me and a cofounder right now and we pay $12 a month for 365 which includes all of Azure AD. Can start doing full integrations right away to lock us in.
For the HN B2B startups here supporting Google Workspace SSO and not Microsoft Azure SSO, or offering Sign in with Google and not Sign in with Microsoft... why? 85% of big businesses are on the one you don't support. "Results for the Fortune 500 [to see who's on Azure AD using a] CSV with a list of all the Company Names for all 500 companies. Running it through this script, I find that 417, or 83.4% of companies have…
azure AD presence does not imply they use msft sso as their sso. sso integration when interacting with a fortune 500 will be a minuscule aspect of the arrangement should you get there. an f500 does not simply decide to use your product and do an sso integration et voila. they want a compliance regiment, a custom crafted legal arrangement, risk assessment, probably an onprem discussion, if you’re small enough a straig…
If you want to be used by business users in a hurry, be under their p-card limit and support their SSO out of the box.
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It is a directory with a lot of functionality. There's actually a number of products under the Azure AD name, including: * Azure AD, their employee/workforce solution. It's a directory, authentication and authorization system. Think Okta or AWS SSO. I imagine this is mostly what the survey was tracking. * Azure AD B2C, their CIAM solution. Think Auth0, Cognito or FusionAuth (disclosure, I'm a FusionAuth employee). *…
> And they say AWS has a hard time with naming :) honestly though, Azure's naming strategies do exactly what they say. AWS uses names that are adjacent or completely random (fargate?). i don't even think cognito is a word in english language[0] [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognito
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Bundling is fine. Bundling by a company that is a monopoly in the space is (or rather, used to be) a violation of antitrust law. But see Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox, especially sections IIA and IIIB: https://www.yalelawjournal.org/note/amazons-antitrust-parado...
So in that case, every cable company is a local monopoly and shouldn’t be allowed to bundle channels. Doesn’t anyone see how silly this sounds in 2022? Disney is by far the largest entertainment conglomerate. Should they not be allowed to bundle Hulu, Disney and ESPN? Intel has over 80% of the PC market, how much hardware should they be able to bundle on their motherboard? And HN has a habit of calling any big compan…
A regulated monopoly. Key difference. Although of course today "regulated" is largely a legal fiction. Nevertheless, it's not so simple as pointing out who has the most market share. It's a pretty messy area of the law, and the field is heavily tilted by money, even more so than most areas of the law.
For the HN B2B startups here supporting Google Workspace SSO and not Microsoft Azure SSO, or offering Sign in with Google and not Sign in with Microsoft... why? 85% of big businesses are on the one you don't support. "Results for the Fortune 500 [to see who's on Azure AD using a] CSV with a list of all the Company Names for all 500 companies. Running it through this script, I find that 417, or 83.4% of companies have…
azure AD presence does not imply they use msft sso as their sso. sso integration when interacting with a fortune 500 will be a minuscule aspect of the arrangement should you get there. an f500 does not simply decide to use your product and do an sso integration et voila. they want a compliance regiment, a custom crafted legal arrangement, risk assessment, probably an onprem discussion, if you’re small enough a straig…
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Do enough people still use consumer Microsoft accounts? Except for myself, it has been a long time since I have encountered a hotmail address or live address or outlook address in the wild. I've gotten career advice several times to get a GMail instead, because Microsoft was considered out of date and backward (not so much anymore).
Anyone that uses Minecraft (edit: or Xbox) I'm sure it is only a matter of time until some middle manager stakes their promotion on merging it with github and/or linkedin. Microsoft is the only company I deal with where I cannot reliably authenticate. I wish they'd just stop trying to run consumer accounts.
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Nah. Azure AD is one of the few IdPs that already supports FIDO2 Discoverable Credentials. You can use Passkeys with it today. You can go passwordless with it today.
Unfortunately, unless this changed too recently for me to know about it, that feature is default off and labelled "Experimental" or something. So it's difficult (ask me how I know) for someone who knows way too much about this stuff and has implemented it themselves, to explain to "leadership" why they should change that default.
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