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Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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did you know that the city of Menlo Park california requires companies to have cameras which can see for miles and track and report all vehicles that drive by them.... look up the largest company in menlo park...

a friend of mine told me - a few years ago - that BART had >4k cameras everywhere. He thought it might be enough to see fingerprints.

If only they put that effort towards... any other aspect of BART...

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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How much power do you need to be continuously running video/snapshots, OCR software, and comms? How expensive a solar panel is needed to generate that power, will it work overnight and through the winter, and will it also be theft-resistant? What's the cost of petrol for driving 4+ hours per day? How will you get coverage in parts of the country that aren't near your home/office?

About 1.2 watts to capture+process 1 frame/second - thats how much my current phone uses, and I suspect a cheaper platform will be more power efficient. You'd use a 5 watt solar panel (costing $4) in the southern USA, and a 10 watt panel (costing $9) in the northern USA. You would aim to rarely have spare power - in winter, you just drop the frame rate and the comms interval. With more engineering effort, you can pro…

Well, I'm slightly less skeptical than I was before. I'm not convinced you can break even for much less than $100 per instance, and I think the risk of getting into trouble is quite high, but there could be something to it.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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This would be flagged immediately. Law enforcement cameras check the plate against the registered make, model, and colour (which are public record in the UK)

What happens if you paint your car? Are you supposed to inform your gov't?

Yes, actually, although generally speaking it's not widely enforced. Generally you won't get caught as long as the color on the registration matches the factory color in the VIN database, but you are supposed to ensure the vehicle description is accurate when you renew your registration and providing false information is a criminal offense, so if the color changes, you should update your vehicle registration.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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This would be flagged immediately. Law enforcement cameras check the plate against the registered make, model, and colour (which are public record in the UK)

What happens if you paint your car? Are you supposed to inform your gov't?

yes

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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The DB5 in Goldfinger (1964) had revolving licence plates. A cursory Google search comes up with some shady websites that sell similar tech, but it would be a nice DIY project to make a licence plate screen that can be changed on the fly (e-ink based maybe). Has anyone tried it?

the only time I saw this in real life was a twenty-something guy with a high powered street motorcycle. It was not stock and had odd parts (which makes other mods less obvious). I believe he had a kill switch for all lights on the bike, which made reading the plate at night more difficult, but the immediate use was to run from a hiway patrol when challenged. No idea how that worked out for him over time.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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Finally. Publish it all. Tracking of every vehicle, visible for everyone. It has been that way with aircraft for a long time. Pilots, however, are such a minority that noone really cares. Now that everyone is impacted, regulation might get updated (or someone might spend the time to identify existing regulation that prohibits this), and that would extend to other vehicles than those with wheels.

I can definitely get behind this, being tracked is a solid disincentive to flying, this could work the same way for driving to promote more public transit/walkable cities. If this goes to facial tracking that's a whole different concern though.

I think the argument being made here is more that it's non-consensual data collection which seems solid. By owning a plane you're consenting to it being tracked and same for a car, but I don't think a person just using the plane/car/train/street should be allowed to be tracked - just the vehicle

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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If you're doing something dressy, you need that shower anyway unless you're never spending more than a couple of minutes outside — or you dress appropriately for the weather and it's not an issue. Florida is also an interesting example given that it's both the southernmost point of the continental United States and at significant risk of catastrophic damages from the climate change caused in no small part by driving…

>Florida is also an interesting example oooh, now do Texas. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Southern California or, flip it. Do any of the states bordering Canada during winter.

Minneapolis consistently has one of the highest rates of bike commuting of US cities.

Build the infrastructure and people ride bikes.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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Finally. Publish it all. Tracking of every vehicle, visible for everyone. It has been that way with aircraft for a long time. Pilots, however, are such a minority that noone really cares. Now that everyone is impacted, regulation might get updated (or someone might spend the time to identify existing regulation that prohibits this), and that would extend to other vehicles than those with wheels.

My current feeling is that, at least in SF, no one cares about traffic laws. The roads are public and traffic laws exist to organize sharing of the roads. I think I'd prefer the roads to be surveilled and more fines be levied. I'm sick of watching people just run red lights, turn right on no-right-on-red lights, block lanes that are illegal to block, stop in places marked "no-stopping", drive down bus only lanes, cross double white "no crossing line" etc... These all put other people's health/lives in danger and need to be enforced IMO

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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The DB5 in Goldfinger (1964) had revolving licence plates. A cursory Google search comes up with some shady websites that sell similar tech, but it would be a nice DIY project to make a licence plate screen that can be changed on the fly (e-ink based maybe). Has anyone tried it?

This would be flagged immediately. Law enforcement cameras check the plate against the registered make, model, and colour (which are public record in the UK)

Just pick up a plate number that matches your car; it's not like every car is unique. (But of course that would be harmful to the rightful owner of that registration number.)

Also, it's a little doubtful colors can be recognized in all light conditions (at night, in a tunnel, etc.)

And if the car is simply parked (vs. a road check), does it matter that it's "flagged"? What could happen? There would have to be a warning somewhere for the car to be impounded, or to send officers to wait for the owner to show up. Very unlikely IMHO.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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Not sure why this is being downvoted, it is an actual thing: “Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information.” https://www.eff.org/pages/automated-license-plate-readers-al... Motherboard did a deeper dive on one of them: “DRN is a private surveillance system crowdsourced by hundreds of repo men who have…

To further this, I know someone who was a public defender a decade ago in the US. They would regularly try to get intersection camera footage to attempt to prove their clients not guilty. Often it was impossible to track down who owned the cameras, or even if they were municiple or private. I imagine this has only gotten worse as cameras have gotten cheaper.

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