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Train Travel in the UK: A Foreigner’s Perspective

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> Cambridge is infamously time consuming to get to by train Why is this? I know the story about the University insisting that the station be far from the center of town to make it inconvenient for students, and that Peterborough is on the ECML, but I don't see good reasons for Cambridge being hard to get to. There are direct express trains! It's not the North where everyone's trundling around in Pacers.

I suppose it depends on what your definition of express is, what you're used to and so on. I think most people in that part of the country equate express to 125mph trains, that are either direct or 'more or less' direct.. which places like Milton Keynes and Peterborough do have. I think the reasons are mix of the two above you mention. No ecml which for what can only be described as a decent economic hub is a missed…

it takes the fast 125mph lines on the ECML for 75% of the journey (at 100mph), then on 100mph branch for the rest of the journey

it's also 46 minutes[1], which is essentially the same as the peterborough expresses[2]

[1] https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W78063/2022-0...

[2] https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L77638/2022-0...

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> Cambridge is infamously time consuming to get to by train Says who?

In my experience: Most people who have ever lived around Cambridge or had need to travel to it regularly.. Do you feel it's not?

Commuting to Cambridge by car is problematic.

But since 2020, short distance commute via train has had an upgrade with new 8 carriage trains along the Fen Line, making situations where you don't have a seat less likely.

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Nobody I know uses that app. They charge way higher admin and booking fees than the alternatives. Trainline adds a fee to every ticket sold, apps like TrainPal do the same things as Trainline (book tickets, check delays, see platform, walking times, etc), but only charge a fee if they get you the ticket cheaper than buying it from the station. So, including the fee, the price you pay is still less. And it find way be…

the fee is usually less than £1. Every single person I know in the UK that travels via train uses it. I wish it didn't fall to a private institution to provide what is a fairly basic service, but I think the fee shouldn't deter people from using it, especially considering they don't even charge it in a lot of cases. Booking tickets directly with a ToC is a terrible experience.

> Booking tickets directly with a ToC is a terrible experience.

most of them use exactly the same booking engine, just without the fee

you even see trainline.com in the address bar

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That also works for Dublin believe it or not.

You certainly can't just order those at an arbitrary station, and I think that ticket might actually have been abolished entirely.

http://traintimes.org.uk/CTR/DCL/14:30/today

I'm fairly sure you can buy this from any station in Britain, at least if it has a ticket office or machines.

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How far ahead do you have to book? I've never noticed prices to vary depending on time ..

Advance tickets go on sale 12 weeks ahead of time. They start off cheap and once a certain amount is sold the price goes up. That keeps going until all advanced tickets are sold and you can only buy “anytime” tickets. I’m sure there’s a system for how many advance tickets there are for each route, but I can’t find any reference to it.

>Advance tickets go on sale 12 weeks ahead of time.

Unless you're travelling on Avanti!

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I'd wager that this person wasn't doing a lot of travelling around cities during rush hour commutes.

>I travelled quite extensively throughout Europe by train in the last three months and of all countries visited it was the UK which had the best record when it came to trains running on time as I don’t think I had one which arrived more than five minutes late.

This particularly struck me as odd, as when I used to commute by train from to Manchester just a few years ago, I tracked at least 25% of my trains as being late. The latest train was 1.5 hours late (going from Manchester), constantly being updated as being 15 minutes late... then another 15 minutes... I was about to bite the bullet and pay for a taxi as it showed up.

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News https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-63028118

Labour commits to renationalisation of the railways. Shadow Teansport Sec: “Labour in power will bring our railways back into public ownership as contracts expire.”

Looks like someone finally noticed there is something very wrong with John Majors railways privatization.

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> British people love to complain about the state of their railways I find people have a very different experience with UK rail on whether they're travelling for business or pleasure. People who commute have to take trains at peak time, at the absolute highest ticket prices, take hundreds of trains a year giving lots of opportunities to get delayed, might get yelled at for being late, and at the end of their journey…

I used to do both on the same line (Bath to London), and it ranged from so egregiously expensive that a small group of us who needed to travel looked into chartering a helicopter as potentially cheaper, to a very pleasant and very cheap trip. All depended on whether you were going on a weekend or not.

Even a first class ticket is not a guarantee of a seat on a weekday morning…

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As someone with significant experience of using the rail networks in both the UK and Spain, I strongly agree with the last point regarding the hybrid reservation model. In addition, there's one further point which I don't think he mentions: the fact that in the UK you can buy a ticket at any station to go to any arbitrary station A from any arbitrary station B (notwithstanding the complexity of determining the best p…

Hmm. Have you tried buying Spanish tickets on thetrainline? (For a while in the early 2000s the best way to buy UK train tickets was through the Deutsche Bahn website; exogenous ticketing is weird, but presumably they've already done the API work to simplify it for you)

> Hmm. Have you tried buying Spanish tickets on thetrainline?

I've given it a go, but on my phone TheTrainLine is returning "unavailable" on literally any journey for some reason (my radical ad-and-tracker blocking?).

I was trying to search for tickets from Cervera—served by regional trains from Barcelona and Lleida—to Torrijos—served by regional trains from Madrid. If TheTrainLine works for you maybe you can try Cervera-Torrijos.

Best case, I'm guessing it might be able to suggest a reasonable combination (regional to Lleida -> high speed to Madrid -> regional to Torrijos) but I'd be very surprised if it can directly sell you any ticket except the Lleida-Madrid one, let alone the whole route as a single ticket.

    EDIT: I finally got TheTrainLine working, and it suggested me an odd bus journey from Cervera rather than the train. So, I decided to check, and in fact TheTrainLine is fully unaware of commuter and regional services around Barcelona or Madrid, and erroneously states "No tickets available" even when searching for routes which I take often. This is almost as bad as Renfe's own website, but at least TheTrainLine includes (some) 3rd party bus services.

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> British people love to complain about the state of their railways When British people go to Switzerland or Japan its like they've died and woken up in heaven. Japanese rail in particular is pure heaven compared to the UK. Trains are always punctual. Trains are always clean. Trains are always frequent. And that's before we start talking about the amazing food stores that are attached to main Japanese stations. In th…

I found it amazing in Tokyo that you could look up on Google maps a really complex set of interchanges to get across town and all of the timings were just perfect. If it said 35mins to get somewhere it would take exactly 35mins and every train Google suggested you’d be on you’d make. It really did feel like magic that everything including walking distances and punctuality were so spot on. It did make it difficult to…

Plus, it shows the total price for the commute.
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