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Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by bena »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #128
twawaaay wrote: post #114

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I was 35 when I was able to run 10k in 47m on my first season after I lost 26 kg the previous year. This is about about 7:30 minutes per mile. I was also able to run 5k in 21:03 (about 6:47) and at the end of the season a marathon in 4:12:00 (~9:35). I wouldn't consider myself athletic and definitely not "conditioned athlete". I had no prior history of running or taking up any sports of any kind. Actually, I would be…

You ran 900 miles in 6 months but don’t consider yourself athletic? Um ok you might want to revise that evaluation.

Yeah, that's an average of about 5 miles a day.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by sendomatic »

nopinsight wrote: post #161

For many people, the risk to long-term health (and in some cases even sudden cardiac death) due to extreme running might not be worth it. Ultramarathon running: how safe is the sport? https://theconversation.com/ultramarathon-running-how-safe-i... Potential Long-Term Health Problems Associated with Ultra-Endurance Running: A Narrative Review https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-021-01561-3

Interesting link. But the way you introduce it overstates the statements made by the research.

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Post by hammock »

elil17 wrote: post #79
hammock wrote: post #59

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Eight gallons of gasoline

Humans are much more energy efficient than cars, so it was less than 3/4 of a gallon (100 kcal/mile * 200 miles = 20,000 calories = 0.7 gallons of gas or about 6 pounds of body fat). He's probably much more efficient than 100 kcal/mile though.

It's 8 gallons if he were to drive. Cars weigh more, but the human body doesn't have an internal combustion engine built into it.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by sz4kerto »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #115
sz4kerto wrote: post #25

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This is one of the major benefits of LSD (long, slow, distance) running, especially for people who have (a slight) ADHD (like me). It allows you to have solitude. I can't sit down and think quietly for an hour, because I .. just can't cope with the lack of stimuli. Running provides some baseline stimulus at least (plus I always set a specific goal, either a distance or a time goal so that I don't give it up), so I ju…

I've never done super long runs (anything over 20 miles) but I just find it too boring. I can listen to a podcast or something but unless I'm running in a new area its just moving kinda slowly through spaces I've already seen. I've switched to biking now which tends to help my restless mind much more. I'm moving faster, I have to lock in more because when I'm going 15 mph or higher I cant zone out like I do when I'm…

Huberman talks about this in his podcast - he says that "don't stack dopamine". In this context - try to run without podcasts, then you'll enjoy more running and podcasts too.

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Post by float4 »

cafard wrote: post #131
speakfreely wrote: post #74

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Anyone who can run 5 miles at 7:15 pace is a pretty well conditioned athlete. If you can keep that pace for an hour, that shows some determination. Multiple hours is an incredible feat. 24 hours is just suprahuman.

Back in the 1980s, a man under 40 had to run a 2:50 marathon to qualify for the Boston Marathon. That's right around 6:30/mile. Quite a few did.

Assume 5% can run a marathon (definitely less) and that 2:50 is 90th percentile (definitely higher) and you're still top 99.5%. How is that not an "incredible feat" as the GP called it?

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by gorkish »

c-fe wrote: post #51
ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

Strava also shares the latitude/elevation during the run. (Screenshot in case you dont have Strava https://imgur.com/PuuKo5r ) What I find interesting and don't really understand is why the elevation keeps going down during the run, even though he stayed on the same track. Anyone have an idea why that could be?

The elevation in this case is just a proxy for storing the barometric pressure, which is because the actual air pressure is the important thing to track if you are trying to normalize against athletic performance. If the watch logged the GPS altitude, it would be a lot more accurate, but less useful as the air density would only be estimated..

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by sirsinsalot »

travisjungroth wrote: post #108
speakfreely wrote: post #74

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Anyone who can run 5 miles at 7:15 pace is a pretty well conditioned athlete. If you can keep that pace for an hour, that shows some determination. Multiple hours is an incredible feat. 24 hours is just suprahuman.

The standard to pass the first phase of US Army Ranger School is 5 miles at 8:00 pace. Those aren't pro runners by any means, but shows a standard for a rather well conditioned group of people. They also need to do 49 push-ups and 59 sit-ups in 2 minutes each, plus 6 pull-ups.

I consider myself unfit and can do 10k at 7min/km ... not sure those numbers are right given 1km=.6mile

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #25
dmos62 wrote: post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

This is one of the major benefits of LSD (long, slow, distance) running, especially for people who have (a slight) ADHD (like me). It allows you to have solitude. I can't sit down and think quietly for an hour, because I .. just can't cope with the lack of stimuli. Running provides some baseline stimulus at least (plus I always set a specific goal, either a distance or a time goal so that I don't give it up), so I ju…

I experience this same benefit from a walking desk. I thought it would be distracting but somehow that 10% of my brain being occupied by walking actually makes it way easier for me to focus otherwise.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by sirsinsalot »

ryeights wrote: post #107
yamtaddle wrote: post #101

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Exactly the same, plus the weird effect that when I finish a run I spend the rest of the day feeling like I'm coming down with the flu, while if I play a ball-chasing game so intensely that I puke, I feel invincible the rest of the day (win or lose). All in my head, I guess, but I can't shake the feeling that one leaves me unhealthy while the other leaves me healthy . Really strange—and that, on top of one being the…

You might be overtraining! While a more intense run can certainly have that effect, especially to a new or infrequent runner, a light effort jog (zone 1 heart rate or below) usually leaves you feeling better than you started.

This. When I over train my body just rattles with impending doom anxiety for days while I feel like I have a bad cold.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by _the_inflator »

sendomatic wrote: post #172
nopinsight wrote: post #161

For many people, the risk to long-term health (and in some cases even sudden cardiac death) due to extreme running might not be worth it. Ultramarathon running: how safe is the sport? https://theconversation.com/ultramarathon-running-how-safe-i... Potential Long-Term Health Problems Associated with Ultra-Endurance Running: A Narrative Review https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-021-01561-3

Interesting link. But the way you introduce it overstates the statements made by the research.

I agree. Most people could not get into the area of "death risk".

I am more interested in injuries.

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