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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by tobiasbischoff »

ValentineC wrote: post #155

> Offloading photos/videos via Lightning cable is another story. I’ve had some serious pains trying to transfer content from my iPhone to my MacBook Pro. I’ve been on YouTube watching videos, unplugging, switching Lightning cables, restarting devices — doing all the things I can think of. I finally found a tip that said if you turn on Airplane mode, then Apple Photos will properly load, and thankfully it did. > These…

AirDrop is the only feasible way but still, 60Gig of Raw Video still take its time and will cancel for stupid reasons, like the iPhone just going into standby while airdropping.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by synicalx »

stanislavb wrote: post #57

It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some. Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?

As someone who switches between two phones somewhat regularly, eSim is just not doable for me. Thankfully I'm not in the US so this specific iPhone 14 situation doesn't effect me but I can totally see them forcing this on us here in Australia as well.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by astrange »

legohead wrote: post #49
itg wrote: post #25

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

Is that why my wife has been complaining all her pictures make her look like she has a smooth/filter-applied face? She just switched from Android to Iphone 13. I tried playing around with the settings but couldn't make it look 'normal'.

If she's using a third party camera app, it has completely different processing from the official app.

…And vice versa, so either way it's a possible fix.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by astrange »

adrr wrote: post #137
drexlspivey wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ProRAW is regular DNG raw files. In the DNG format you can store metadata like tonemapping masks etc but those are non destructive adjustments, it’s like a layer on top of the raw data. You can open the ProRAW files on any app that reads RAW files and undo any processing without loss of information and do your own processing.

I still think has denoise, and sharpening added as well as some magic from the other camera sensors. I would like to see a true raw from a single sensor.

You can get that with a third party app like Halide.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by t0bia_s »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #61
t0bia_s wrote: post #56

I though era of "more megapixel = better picture" is gone, but apparently not. All that matters in technical quality of cameras is dynamic range. That is related to sensor size, more specific to pixel size that has ability to absorb light. It is simple physics. Those who need camera sensor quality should check this charts: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

But your eyeballs are still better than cameras, or at least what we see is better than an image taken of the same thing. Maybe it makes sense that we have not hit the absolute limits. Although these cameras are smaller than you eyeballs. Might not make sense to compare digital cameras to eyeballs yet.

I'm looking forward to have screens with twice higher resolution than real world =)

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by astrange »

Sparyjerry wrote: post #95
itg wrote: post #25

The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.

It's not just noise reduction but the sharpening of the photos is really crazy. I took a picture of my carpet and it looks nothing like it does in person or up close. Like my carpet is just fuzzy and bland colored, not deep grand canyon crevasses with lots of contrast that show in the iPhone photo.

Cameras don't know how much brightness or contrast something is supposed to have; if you take a picture with only the carpet in frame, on auto AWB and everything else, it's going to be an overly contrasty picture lit as if it's the noontime sun.

That's when you have to switch to something with manual controls.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by astrange »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #141

I’ve been kinda unimpressed with the iPhone 13 mini camera coming from the pixel 6 pro. I like everything else about the iPhone better, but the camera seems substantially worse. I have to edit pictures quite a bit to fix color balance issues. Here’s a recent example: https://adobe.ly/3qEZRVx (Lightroom won’t let me share both my edit and the unedited original but the blueish picture was taken at almost the same time…

Do believe that first one's blue because your finger's in it.

The other one seems like a bug. Could always go complain about it.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by karolist »

gst wrote: post #131
qbasic_forever wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another good reason not to give up the Garmin just yet is having two-way communication on your emergency beacon too. It's not really confirmed or known what Apple is offering here and if there will be any way to communicate with rescuers if you have to initiate a rescue. With Garmin devices you can text both ways and it has been shown in many rescues to be a huge advantage at getting the right search and rescue or ot…

In Apple's video it sounds like there's 2-way communication: https://youtu.be/V35jHAkpUIk (at about 1:20 in the video)

It's two way but predefined messages only. This way apple Apple has a map of messages to some minimal bit value and saves on bandwidth. Garmin InReach allows for predefined messaging too and custom as a pay per message option, it can take 10 minutes or more to send a custom InReach message. Also, InReach uses iridium satellite network which has true global coverage whilst Apple is using Globalstar, which doesn't.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by astrange »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #54
parkingrift wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an odd takeaway from the article. You can trivially switch between 12MP and 48MP. Why not just… switch to 48MP when you want the extra resolution, and otherwise stick to 12MP. Perhaps switch to 48MP when you would otherwise use your DSLR…?

Because looking at the 12MP pictures I would NEVER want it, and I don't want to sacrifice the battery / storage with 48MP pictures the time. I expected the lower resolutions to be a leap compared to the current gen (I have a 13 non-pro) but there's basically no difference.

Those 12MP photos aren't representative because he's using a third party camera app that hasn't been tuned for this phone yet and for some reason is using this as a review of the official camera.

They look fine to me though. If you're worried about beating "a DSLR", a medium format film camera from 1920 beats it in every aspect anyway. Read your Ken Rockwell!

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by karolist »

trevor-e wrote: post #79
stanislavb wrote: post #57

It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some. Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?

It will be painful for an incredibly tiny number of people, and vastly superior for basically everyone else. Plus, it frees up valuable physical space inside the phone. another counterpoint: I just got back from a trip in Europe and had to swap my sim card back when we landed. I forgot to ask for the small (and easily losable) tool they give you to pop open the tray, but luckily my SO had an earring that was able to…

You say this but at the same time Apple is selling iPhone 14 with two physical sim trays in China. https://i.imgur.com/xsvwViv.png
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