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Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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> Because nation states are well known for producing usable software at a reasonable cost to tax payers? Well, actually - yes? My country has lots of problems, but government-issued software is surprisingly good. I would have trust issues however after it came up, that they used Pegasus very liberally.

Which country is that?

Guessing by the mention of Pegasus I guess they might have meant Poland.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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This the reason I use my own domain and a paid email service. I used Gmail before but got super worried about all the stories of accounts getting blocked with no way of contacting a human.

Sure domain registrars and email providers are not infallible, but it's a huge step up from trusting Googles customer service to do the right thing

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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It is a bit overkill, but the closest you can get to owning your online identity is to "own" your own domain. sarcastiquotes used because you don't really own a domain you only rent it. I run my own mail server because I am a sys-admin and running a mail-server is something I do for fun. but the amount of agency you gain once you have a domain is staggering. people without a domain are pretty much second class net ci…

> I wish municipality offered domains, for example: you move to St Louis you would get name.stlouis.mo.us this would give you the same agency online that a mail address gets you offline.

While a US municipality may or may not operate their locality-based domain (here, the university does), ordinary persons are able to get subdomains under them. The only reason I haven't is because the university here doesn't bother to respond when I follow the process. But you may have better luck where you are.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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Agreed. And Migadu has quite cheap plans and very good service during the two years that I use them. Not affiliated, just a happy customer.

Zoho has a free plan that I've been happy with although its only been a month since I moved to them from gmail.

I concur, I am using Zoho for years now.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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There's a lot of hyperbole in this article.

> These extra trips through different email servers strip the emails of information about the sending server which is critical to protect against spam and email forgery.

Sure, a forwarder can strip information from a forwarded message; but that's a rogue SMTP server. And this would be your previous email provider; so you'll know whether they're rogue before you start forwarding messages through them.

> Email was designed in the 1960s

s/1960s/1970s/

You get your own domain; then host your email at a provider that offers bring-your-own-domain. Now you have a portable email. Your domain registrar cannot interfere with your messages, unless you choose to host your email with your domain registrar.

I agree that an email address is a poor identity token. As with SQL, an identity should be an opaque object with no embedded meaning. In addition to being an identity, an email address is a communications endpoint, and is parseable, so it's not opaque.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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I own my domain name, however I opted to go through google apps for hosting my email. Most of the time it's fine, however the part that breaks down (and many have already commented about this) is that I can't make use of any of the google services via that email (nest, voice, etc). So I ended up creating another gmail account that is only used for those services. All that said: can someone point me in the direction o…

I've set up my custom domain with iCloud mail and it's been 100% painless. The web client is pretty basic but also snappy and reliable. YMMV if you're not in the Apple ecosystem; but if you are, it's all super smooth. I have no idea how it works with the Google stuff, as I'm actively trying to avoid it; but last time I checked, you could create a Google account with any email you like, and things just work.

My concern is that once I switch off of Google for hosting, their internal systems might not forget about the prior account status and still disallow me from using said services. But yes I agree, everything google has touched in terms of services I use has made them worse. I used to have a reliable set of cameras :/

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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Another solution that the article doesn't mention: separate the email address from the email provider. It really is the domain name that is your legal identity. Make it as easy for people to register a personal domain name as it is for them to sign up for free email so they can switch from Gmail to Hotmail to Protonmail without changing their email address. Edit: We then need a standard for discoverable DNS settings…

But what credentials do you use to log into the personal domain name provider, to manage it? Another email? Unless there is state-guaranteed ownership of a domain name, this will remain to be chicken-and-egg problem: to manage a domain one needs an account with an email, and to have an independent email one needs a domain. Even then, moving between countries is normal now which poses a huge challenge to the concept o…

Sure, you probably need an existing email address to bootstrap a domain, but you can change it as soon as you have your new email address set up.

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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web3 is correcting this with censorship resistance usernames via ethereum name service[0]. a lot of famous folks have already using them [1]. [0] https://ens.domains/ [1] https://ethleaderboard.xyz/

With no recourse if you lose your private key, is it really any better for 99% of users?

Re: Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019)

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I run my own mail server as well, on my own domain, own server, physically present in my home. It's increasingly becoming a hassle.. Especially sending mail from a "consumer" line is tricky, they block outgoing port 25 and no longer really provide a relay host for you to go through either.. I basically had to infiltrate my current ISP to get access to people in netops and gaslight them into configuring reverse-dns an…

Everyone deserves an e-mail that can't be taken away from them without a court order.

Sadly the vast majority won't realize they not only deserve it, but need it, until it's too late.

The best time to use a custom domain name under your control for personal email was when you first started corresponding via email. The second best time is now.

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