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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by Apocryphon » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 3:55 PM UTC

adev_ wrote: post #152

JackFr wrote: post #143

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> That apply to Dan Price too, whatever he did. > Maybe it is time to grow up America and accept the world as it is. What does that mean? I think I understand your point - that people like to create hero-narratives that are mostly not true, and that at high levels of achievement some very successful people carry the seeds of their own destruction. Fair enough. But the Puritan America that you want to grow up is a str…

> Dan Price is a effectively a nobody Dan Price is not a nobody. He is a public figure, frequently in TV and media presented regularly as "The alternative CEO model that arrive to give to his workers excellent working conditions while having a successful and growing business". And yet, I can bet with you that whatever the judgement of the court will be, the American press will now (opportunistically) vomit on him for…

Plenty of publicly shamed and dishonored CEOs have come back from the brink, from Travis Kalanick to most spectacularly, recently, Adam Neumann. If Price is able to be found innocent by the courts, he would likely do so as well. He doesn’t need you weeping and clutching pearls on his behalf.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by Apocryphon » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 4:08 PM UTC

askafriend wrote: post #30

quickthrower2 wrote: post #24

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“Silicon Valley” is a culture not just a physical location.

That’s like saying you can be a New Yorker without living in New York. Just ain’t possible. Culture comes from circumstances, weather, geography, history and so many other things. Something is always lost when you try to copy it without the context.

But Silicon Valley isn't even a fixed geographical location before. It used to refer only to the South Bay. But during this tech boom, it has spread to as far as San Francisco to the north, and to the East Bay. It's a very fluid entity with no fixed boundaries.

Facebook was started at Harvard, it only moved to Palo Alto later on. Does that make it truly a Silicon Valley company, or a johnny come lately? What about Amazon or Microsoft, the standard-bearers of the Seattle tech scene? Are they somehow not Silicon Valley even if their industry impact and business practices line up exactly with the rest of the Silicon Valley crowd? Perhaps it can be said that in some contexts, "Silicon Valley" can be synonymous with "the American tech industry in general."

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by prawn » Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 3:00 AM UTC

jongjong wrote: post #170

prawn wrote: post #125

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Sorry, but this seems ridiculous. Surely it's plausible that a tech company can see success independently of any dirt on a founder, and that his $70k thing made for easy headlines and brought him a lot of attention. It's more likely that a self-promoter conceives of this sort of angle and with a view to pushing it as a gimmick, and that the same personality type is prone to the allegedly selfish behaviour.

You underestimate how many people there are in the world competing for attention. I guarantee you that there are many far more interesting stories which never see the light of day.

No, I absolutely don't underestimate it. Why would you assume that the far more interesting stories would get more press? No one says "the far more interesting wheel gets the oil". There are loads of contributing factors.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by corncheese » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 11:55 PM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #149

mrweasel wrote: post #42

I hate these stories, because we have no idea which side is true. The reckless drive is the only charge than can be proven, or at least have vitnesses. Criminal charges really should be kept out of the media until there’s enough evidence to jail the suspect. This is to protect both sides.

Well it would have been in the media due to him resigning anyway, regardless of the truth or otherwise of the recent allegations. While I don't know about the recent stuff there seems clear evidence he was sketchy financially re the original setting salaries to 70k thing. He claimed he did that and then his brother and fellow shareholder sued him for doing it but really the brother launched the suit before that happe…

Interesting how the media continues to bring up the lawsuit but never share the real story and the outcome to the lawsuit. I guess it is more profitable to spread lies.

Here is one article sharing the details after the lawsuit with Dan and his brother. People should do more research before blasting opinions. It is terrible what the US is allowed to share and spread buyer to gain more article clicks!

https://www.geekwire.com/2016/dan-price-70k-ceo-prevails-sui...

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by corncheese » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 11:56 PM UTC

55555 wrote: post #159

I understand that our current society expects me to believe by default his wife's accusations of sexual assault, but are we also supposed to believe that he waterboarded her, as she alleged in a TEDx talk? (I actually think he is likely an abuser, etc., and it seems like the 70k thing was in response to a lawsuit, but c'mon I really doubt he waterboarded anyone.)

The 70k was already in the works before the lawsuit. https://www.geekwire.com/2016/dan-price-70k-ceo-prevails-sui...

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by corncheese » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 11:57 PM UTC

subpixel wrote: post #137

blippage wrote: post #27

“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

This story isn’t about ‘trial by Twitter’. An online mob isn’t what put this guy’s behavior in the spotlight - it was the reporting done by a journalist who saw through his program and the actions of women who were willing to go to the police, to speak to each other, and to talk to reporters. The power of social media that this story reveals is the degree to which presence and popularity can drown out important infor…

I think the media rather profit that share the truth. Many of the women are not credible and can’t get their story straight.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Post by corncheese » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 11:58 PM UTC

cardanome wrote: post #64

antupis wrote: post #41

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There has been plenty of those accusations like waterboarding his ex-wife and usually no smoke without a fire is pretty good thumb-rule about these things.

If one wanted to wage a dirt campaign against him the accusations would look exactly like they do now. He is obviously a controversial figure. Might have rustled the wrong feathers. Many accusation are also very nebulous, hard to verify and avoiding anything concrete that could get the person making them get sued for defamation. Of course, he also could just be an asshole and abuser. We simply can't know.

Exactly! Also the media should be sharing more of this. Than continue to push out stories that are already resolved. The brother Lucas ended up paying for all the lawyer fees after Dan won the case Interesting how the media continues to bring up the lawsuit but never share the real story and the outcome to the lawsuit. I guess it is more profitable to spread lies.

Here is one article sharing the details after the lawsuit with Dan and his brother. People should do more research before blasting opinions. It is terrible what the US is allowed to share and spread buyer to gain more article clicks!

https://www.geekwire.com/2016/dan-price-70k-ceo-prevails-sui...