Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023 • Hacker News Board

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Post by _4BuuS_ » Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:41 PM UTC

Teknoman117 wrote: post #14

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly the funding for Google Cloud will go bye-bye if they don't beat Azure by 2023. They won't axe all of Google Cloud, but I bet they'll start killing services that don't make money. (Remember: Google is an advertising company; loss-leading cloud services don't help them sell ads)

Forgive my ignorance, but from a business perspective, is Google Docs, Drive, etc. considered part of Google Cloud or is GSuite distinctly different?

From a business perspective it is part of Google Cloud overall. Seems like leadership doesn't stay long though. https://9to5google.com/2022/06/29/google-workspace-javier-so... https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-tomb?trk=public_post_share-...

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Post by yunohn » Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #22

mindcrime wrote: post #8

Google should just go ahead and shut down their entire Cloud business. I mean, nobody in their right mind would build a business or anything substantial on top of any Google provided service, and the hobbyist market can't be that big. Just go ahead and drop out Google, and quit fucking wasting everybody's time.

Yes. They already angered the game dev community, and few believe Stadia will stay around. This angers the industrial internet-of-things community. You can get Siemens industrial equipment tied to Google IoT Core. Hopefully you don't already have it installed. Industrial controls people think in terms of decades, not months. A Coursera class on Google IoT Core for industrial control started today. 77,000 people signe…

> Coursera class … started today… 77000 signed up

That’s actually just a Coursera marketing tactic. Most of their courses are not real-time and are self-paced content.

So, they act like they are starting the course “Today” every day, and the 77k enrolled is the # of enrolled users forever since the course has been offered. Totally misleading!

Re: Google IoT Core will be discontinued on Aug. 16, 2023

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Post by derefr » Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 4:32 PM UTC

sink wrote: post #53

dekhn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Cloud (VMs, blob storage, databases) bring in multiple billions of revenue a year from enterprise. The company invested billions in new data centers and transferred large parts of intenral technical infrastructure into cloud to build these products over a decade. If Google Cloud (VMs, blob storage, databases) shut down, not only will large # of enterprises howl (data gravity is huge), Google will absolutely ha…

As a former head of engineering for a mid-sized IoT company with many tens of thousands of devices deployed in the field using a competing product (no, not the AWS one), seeing this made my stomach churn. This was my second biggest fear after waking up to a ransomware attack. It's hard to imagine anyone trusting Google for IoT again. I will certainly put them at the bottom of my list for any other infrastructure I de…

> It's hard to imagine anyone trusting Google for IoT again.

I mean, presumably they decided the IoT vertical just wasn't for them altogether.

If Google intended some new service to take this one's place, they would have 1. launched it before deprecating this one; and 2. built a backend shim to route data sent to the old API into the new backend, so that people's code wouldn't have to change. (Like they did for Firebase, and for Stackdriver, and for anything else they actually cared about keeping the business of the customers of.)

This move, meanwhile, clearly sends the message of "we don't want to be in this business; stop trying to buy this kind of service from us; just go away." It's the feel of being on the receiving end of the "fire your [bad] customers" advice — just applied to "firing" an entire (bad?) market.