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Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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That will be almost impossible to prove. Especially as he provided an all-cash, take-it-or-leave-it offer based on publicly available financial data. He has access to lawyers and financial advisors to warn him against potential misstatemrnts on Twitter's part. If they signed off on it, he has no case. If they warned him against it, and he went ahead anyway, he also has no case. The judge will rightfully wonder how th…
What happens in cases like this is that Musk will request the court for discovery of internal Twitter documents/emails/reports/etc to backup his claim that Twitter was aware that more bots existed in their BAU number than they reported. Twitter will object, but ultimately some degree of discovery will be allowed (with a more narrow scope), but it will pressure Twitter to settle for a lower purchase price because god…
Yes I also think a settlement is where this is headed. But the bill be pretty high.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
#173It is impossible for neutral companies to get mDAU data for Twitter. Twitter needs to provide proof. You can’t use Twitter professionally without using bots btw.
There is a food market at the ground level of Twitter HQ with an awesome beer selection. More valuable than most Twitter accounts. :)
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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It's insane because Twitter has been very careful to explain that the 5% number is not some sort of "promise". > Additionally, our calculation of mDAU is not based on any standardized industry methodology and is not necessarily calculated in the same manner or comparable to similarly titled measures presented by other companies. Similarly, our measures of mDAU growth and engagement may differ from estimates published…
He claimed to buy Twitter, specifically, to clean it up; to get rid of bots. That was his stated goal. "If our twitter bid succeeds, we will defeat the spam bots or die trying!" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1517215066550116354
Apparently Twitter subpoenaed Musk's friends and colleagues who were actively tweeting about the deal with what is believed to be an attempt to prove he encouraged his posse tweet negatively to force a lower price.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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Yes, he could end up negotiating a lower price. Even a tiny discount might make it all worthwhile.
It will be hard to negotiate a lower price while a lawsuit about specific performance is still open. Since Twitter has a real (not guaranteed, but not terribly unlikely) of having a court force Musk to buy Twitter at the original price, I don’t think they’d seriously consider selling at a massive discount. I could see a small haircut to the price in a settlement, so maybe that’s the angle. But… with the threat of spe…
Real chance does not mean 100% chance. As long as there is a threat (and fear) of losing, negotiations can happen.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
#176Musk seems like a smart guy who got overconfident and out of his area of expertise and made a series of incredibly stupid decisions. Pretty much every legal and financial professional without a vested Musk related interest seems to think similarly. Matt Levine has been lights out on this topic. Everyone knows his bot claims are just FUD to try and weasel out of writing a check he no longer has the guts to cash with c…
Do you mean he only recently got overconfident? Just a reminder that he already got fined $40 million for his "going private at 420" joke.
And that court case is scheduled the week after this one. Musk has 3 major trials in October.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
#177Imagine this whole ordeal playing out on a house that was not listed for sale. The buyer starts harassing the homeowner to sell to them, they say no, so he buys up the mortgage lender and tries to force a sale. His antics are hurting the home's value so you relent to selling and give him an as-is sale contract, which he signs and gives you 24 hrs to respond or he will try to force a sale. All the while, this is of co…
I go to a mercedes shop to buy a car I can show off with, arrange a loan then get demoted and paid less. I'm "effectively" too broke to buy the mercedes. So I return the next day and claim "the lights are to curved!" Is the way I look at it.
TLDR: The worlds richest man, insecure about his wealth decided to show off and failed due to a lack of wealth. To somehow save face he claims that his change of heart is not financially motivated.
Lesson, no one in this world is above being insecure about their wealth or status. It just happened to the worlds richest dude.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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If his popularity is due to what he posts on twitter it would appear that a large proportion of the human race are deranged morons.
He can be popular due to Twitter and people can also not be deranged morons. Twitter is very popular with a few niche groups: Journalists and people in tech for example. The former is influenced by Elon's antics on Twitter and end up writing news stories or making documentaries [1] about him. People learn about Musk through these respectable publications. The latter group spreads the gospel of Elon's TED talks and pr…
The emerald mine stuff is super overblown and only matters to people who don't like Musk for other reasons.
If owning some natural resource like a mine or two was all it took to become a trailblazing entrepreneur who played a key role in Paypal/Tesla/SpaceX then Musk wouldn't be as popular as he is with many because there would be so many more like him around.
Musk is clearly an extraordinary individual even if he sometimes acts like a dickhead and had a small boost from owning emerald mines. But like I mentioned above if owning a profitable mine of some type was all it took to be an entrepreneur at Musk's level we would be drowning in them and he wouldn't be such a big deal in the first place.
But in the case of Twitter, Musk clearly seems to be in the wrong here legally.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
#179Imagine this whole ordeal playing out on a house that was not listed for sale. The buyer starts harassing the homeowner to sell to them, they say no, so he buys up the mortgage lender and tries to force a sale. His antics are hurting the home's value so you relent to selling and give him an as-is sale contract, which he signs and gives you 24 hrs to respond or he will try to force a sale. All the while, this is of co…
I am, not because I think “the buyer is right” but because I hate the seller with a passion.
Twitter has done terrible harm to society and whatever and whoever does it harm, it’s doing a good job in my book.
Re: Twitter says Musk’s spam analysis used tool that called his own account a bot
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>They repeatedly demonstrate that they are a company of bullies, with how they ban people from their service that don't conform to the left orthodoxy. So the manner in which they conduct their private business, which is well within the rule of law, makes them ineligible for protection from those violating securities and contract law?
I said that I don't feel sorry for Twitter. The law should apply without consideration of political ideology.