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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by localhost »

localhost wrote: post #127
darkteflon wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I have an Innocn PU15-PRE. Just to reiterate that a 15.6” 4K is definitely the way to go. I also tried 14” 4K and 1440p panels but - on account of the way scaling and font rendering works in MacOS - they’re a big step down. Even moreso if you’re doing anything graphically intensive - you’ll want to use non-native scaling on a 14” 4K which is expensive for the GPU. The 15.6” panel doesn’t have this problem becau…

How do you mount it to a tripod? Also do you know if you can horizontally flip the image so it could be used with a teleprompter?

Thanks! From the manual, it looks like it only has support for rotation and not the flipping.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by can16358p »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #137
sumedh wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when announced. Let me guess you dont have kids.

Not parent and I don't have kids but if I did, there's no way I'm giving them an ipad. They can have coloring books, crayons, Legos and building blocks, doll houses, physical plastic, wooden and plush toys, restricted access to PCs/consoles, but no portable smart devices with screens, online connection and spyware apps. By kids I'm talking about pre-teens. They can get smart devices when they're teenagers.

So... the kids will probably not have much friends as all the other kids will be socializing online even if that's inferior to physical friendship.

Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills.

A balance with both iPad time and physical activity time would be a better tradeoff IMO.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by madoublet »

jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

I think most people (not devs/designers) view a laptop as something that costs around $750. That is why Windows still has a huge marketshare. Dell, Lenovo, Samsung, Microsoft all have laptops that have solid build quality, OLED screens, touchscreens, etc. at $1,500-2,200 price range but no one buys those. If you are in that price range, you are probably in one of those niche industries (design, development, graphics) and you are probably buying an Apple.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by wink »

jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

There are several failure modes for innovation.

New ARM-based chipset on a laptop? There are benchmarks and apparently we trust that they don't just melt after 1000h of use. (and sometime you can replace a laptop cpu)

Smartwatch? Cool new thing, doesn't really cost an arm and a leg, might try that - maybe the battery can be replaced.

A screen - the one thing that you had to carry very careful (crt), be careful not to scratch while wiping off dust, or not letting your waterbottle press against too heavily in your bag... and now you're folding it?

This is one of the few times you can call me a pure Luddite, I am terrified of this and the idea that it could break like 2 months after warranty ends. Or inside warranty and they just tell me to gtfo because I handled it wrong. Yes, maybe I am overly careful here, but my personal laptops are from 2016 and 2013 and both got some amount of abuse... I like long-lasting hardware...

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Post by martijn_himself »

sumedh wrote: post #116
martijn_himself wrote: post #113

I don't really get the appeal of folding screens, but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when it was announced. One thing I would love is an iPhone / iPad that docks and dual boots into macOS powering a monitor- surely that should be technically possible by now.

> but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when announced. Let me guess you dont have kids.

I do see the appeal now, just not when it was announced in 2010 (I think a lot of people didn't at the time).

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Post by geraldwhen »

jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb."

They are terrible.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by can16358p »

But what is the software support for the folding screen? The hardware is cool and assuming it doesn't break in a few months, I see the lack of much software support as the biggesr adoption roadblocker.

I don't think just treating it as one big screen or two/three separate screens without any more context would be enough.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ornornor »

belter wrote: post #167

I though OLED burn-in was still a real issue? "How real is risk of OLED burn in?": https://www.reddit.com/r/4kTV/comments/r0l7cj/how_real_is_ri... "Being an Early Adopter SUCKS - Trying to Fix Burn-in on my LG CX": https://youtu.be/hWrFEU_605g

I’ve had an OLED tv from Panasonic that I used quite extensively for the last 3 years and there is absolutely no burn in whatsoever on it.

I was worried about it when I got it but loved how black the backs are so I bought it anyway.

No regrets. I remember a renowned panels review site doing extensive tests on each and it basically took them two years of full brightness always on torture to have burnin on the tv stations markee and around the presenters face. They really overdid it and so I decided it’s not a realistic risk for my usage.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by jacquesm »

wink wrote: post #174
jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

There are several failure modes for innovation. New ARM-based chipset on a laptop? There are benchmarks and apparently we trust that they don't just melt after 1000h of use. (and sometime you can replace a laptop cpu) Smartwatch? Cool new thing, doesn't really cost an arm and a leg, might try that - maybe the battery can be replaced. A screen - the one thing that you had to carry very careful (crt), be careful not to…

Well, wait and see. Early adopters get to claim the cool factor and the rest of us can pick it up if and when it survives. But it's an interesting development and I do hope that it works out for them once they start fielding them in larger numbers, a recall of these devices in quantity would not come cheap.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ndiddy »

sumedh wrote: post #116
martijn_himself wrote: post #113

I don't really get the appeal of folding screens, but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when it was announced. One thing I would love is an iPhone / iPad that docks and dual boots into macOS powering a monitor- surely that should be technically possible by now.

> but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when announced. Let me guess you dont have kids.

In early childhood, children's brains will rapidly adapt to their environment (https://academic.oup.com/pch/article/11/9/571/2648303?login=...), for example Aboriginal Australian children develop strong spatial cognition to survive in an environment with few landmarks (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001002...). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose brains have adapted to oversaturated, constantly changing, narrative-free stimuli by being raised on YouTube Kids reaches adulthood.
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