$5K a month? The dream of affordable internet at sea will have to wait. Bummer. I expected a disruption from SpaceX.
Starlink Maritime
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Call for pricing is usually B2B. Best case they want a salesperson to twist your arm, worst case the price is as much as they can squeeze out of you. If you ask why they waste people's time like this they'll say they're actually delivering maximum value. It's dishonest and archaic.
I think this is a matter of perspective. I founded a company that sold b2b software and experimented with removing pricing from my website. The challenge is the cost to complete each sale was highly variable which made it difficult to advertise fixed pricing. Consider the following: If the buyer is an enterprise they expect a discount. The buyer may require the seller to use a supplier management tool like Arriba whi…
You can't have both? Have clear pricing with a variable enterprise discount. Big companies appreciate transparency too.
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#173I have a friend who used to live in the Outer Hebrides islands. I called it his "God-Forsaken Scottish Rock."
Fairly bleak place, and he had crap Internet service.
Looks like his [former] place is ... juuuuusssst ... out of band.
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#174"$5,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $10,000 for two high performance terminals." Definitely aimed at the champagne caviar, St Barts crowd rather than the hard scrabble, cruiser on a fixed income. In other terms, Iridium Go is still the best value around and truly global for the time being.
Is that price also for commercial? It seems like a decent deal for a cruise ship or monitoring offshore equipment worth millions of dollars.
350mbit can be sold ands split across 1000pax in on a cruise ship at $5/day so you’d have the fee covered on day 1.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That might mean that they plan to enable inter-satellite links then? Or maybe they'll have stationary ships with "ground"-stations until the inter-satellite thing is working.
That wouldn't solve the problem. Those ships would still need a backhaul.
The idea is that the ships go up to another starlink and then down to a base station.
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#176"$5,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $10,000 for two high performance terminals." Definitely aimed at the champagne caviar, St Barts crowd rather than the hard scrabble, cruiser on a fixed income. In other terms, Iridium Go is still the best value around and truly global for the time being.
Iridium Go is 2.4 Kbits/s compared with 350 Mbps here, and data is charged in minutes (i.e. the slower/worse the connection the more it costs). Apples and oranges. Iridium GO is cheap, but that's all you can really say positively about it. It is arguably not even offering "internet" in the normal sense, since loading a website would be incredibly expensive/bad and is therefore restricted to low data rate messaging an…
Any given ship in the shipping industry probably burns that in fuel per day. Or half day. I think the value proposition is in line. I'll admit it seems expensive from the perspective of our dream sail around the world whilst coding and collecting benjamins from various hustles.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Call for pricing is usually B2B. Best case they want a salesperson to twist your arm, worst case the price is as much as they can squeeze out of you. If you ask why they waste people's time like this they'll say they're actually delivering maximum value. It's dishonest and archaic.
I think this is a matter of perspective. I founded a company that sold b2b software and experimented with removing pricing from my website. The challenge is the cost to complete each sale was highly variable which made it difficult to advertise fixed pricing. Consider the following: If the buyer is an enterprise they expect a discount. The buyer may require the seller to use a supplier management tool like Arriba whi…
I appreciate seeing a perspective from the "other side" on this. Still, as a small business operator occasionally making B2B purchases, I still find "call for pricing" annoying and assume it will mean that the product is way out of my price range.
Could there be some middle ground? Could you do something like "prices start at $X; additional fees may apply?" At least give us a ballpark number; something from which I can decide if it's worth my time to investigate further.
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#178$5000 a month? Who is this for? I'm a little confused. Seems like even the military would be reluctant at that price point, let alone private boat owners who aren't multimillionaires.
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#179The maritime coverage map shows coastal coverage around countries with inland coverage right now, i.e. they are bouncing the connection via one of their satellites to a nearby groundstation. Starting in Q4/2022 they want to cover mid-latitudes around the globe. That might mean that they plan to enable inter-satellite links then? (This is a bit surprising - on one hand, this step extends coverage towards higher and lo…
Is it just me or is this map super heard to read? Three shades of similar blue?
Is it saying that in Q1/2023 the top of the earth (rest of Canada, etc) should be covered?
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#180I work in the space industry and follow SATCOM closely. This is a very competitive space. Companies like Viasat, Iridium and Inmarsat already work in this vertical. SpaceX beats all these companies from a marketing perspective, but the big question is will a LEO operator provide better coverage than a GEO operator?
At least, It should give much lower latency, which is super important for all remote tech, system administration and anything near-real time.