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Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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I work for a company, headquartered in the Mid West, that has been very public in their support of LGBTQ rights, among other things. Do you think corporations should take a public stance in support of abortion rights? Will tech companies continue to flock to Texas, in what will become a very difficult environment for abortion?

After reading a bit about Austin this morning (but before this news) I was browsing zillow + google maps, trying to get a feel for the city. Basically I'm tired of winter. It's a total non-starter now though.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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This is the final chapter of a decade-long saga which basically boils down to the Republicans obtaining votes from Evangelicals and other Christian denominations in order to give them what they wanted. In exchange for that, they would use their power to cut taxes, regulations and let the riches become richer and richer at the expense of everyone else. I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and…

> while Jesus Christ never gave to abortion the slightest mention In his defense, Jesus came to fulfill the old law and not abolish it, as directly stated by himself. The old law has the 5th commandment, "Thou shalt not kill," which in the times of Jesus was unanimously interpreted to cover abortion (Psalm 139 being one reason why) and Jesus, by not speaking against this interpretation (unlike other interpretations),…

The old testament also banned eating shrimp and that people working on Saturday should be stoned, so I kind of see lots of cherry picking here. It's also highly ambiguous if the fetus should be considered a human being or property (see Exodus), but that's not the point.

The core point was that most of the message and teachings of Jesus were clearly, unambiguously about social justice and charity, and yet modern Christians care way more about Old Testament moral rules than the actual Christian message, what Jesus clearly cared about the most, the last, the meek, the poor.

The modern Christian votes for racist ultra-rich that only profess hate towards everyone that's different from them in order to get abortion and gay marriage banned. That's the worst corruption of the Christian message possible, in my opinion, and makes those people phony believers to my eyes. They use their as an indentitarian way to distinguish them from the others, which is absolutely at odds with the ecumenical message of Jesus Christ.

Care about the young not being able to start families first, about those who are in need and can't make their ends meet, and then take care of the rest.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#174

I`m not american, but lets be honest. Is not a constitution right because is not in the constitution. States can now do their onw diligence about the subject. So it`s not the end of the word for pro-choise people.

It's not the end of pro-choice nor is it the right-wing victory that people think it is.

Thomas literally wrote in concurrence that this decision also implies that Lawrence, Obergefell, and Griswold are on the chopping block next.

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#177

Looking at this ruling and the one a few days ago on arms - could someone explain to me why they're wrong legally? FYI I'm not American and personally am in favour of legalised abortion + severe gun restrictions. My understanding is these rulings are both based on the constitution. The one on guns seems really straightforward: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of th…

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Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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Everyone is acting like this banned abortion, which it didn't. It is up to the state you live in. If you don't like the state's laws, then move.

If you don't want to move, then when you get pregnant, go to a state where it is legal.

American's cannot be inconvenienced. These 1st world problems are terrible.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#179

This is the final chapter of a decade-long saga which basically boils down to the Republicans obtaining votes from Evangelicals and other Christian denominations in order to give them what they wanted. In exchange for that, they would use their power to cut taxes, regulations and let the riches become richer and richer at the expense of everyone else. I hope that whomever supported this ruling is happy right now, and…

In 2016, Republicans who went to church weekly were far less likely to vote for Trump, than those who rarely or never went.

That means the lower taxes and less regulations were likely desired for their own sake not as a trade off.

Christians crazily believe Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit and was God incarnate within the womb. As crazy as that may be, it logically follows they would adamantly be against ending human lives before they’re born.

Re: Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

#180

How is this seen like it's the end of the world? Just vote with the people that won't ban abortion.

Because in contrary to the states' rights argument being touted, the legal theory underpinning the decision opens the door to a federal ban. You might not get the chance to vote for the people that ban abortion for you.
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