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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by todfox »

slig wrote: post #147
todfox wrote: post #141

I refuse to wear or display any corporate logo, even if I generally like the company or its products. I buy unbranded clothing. When I can't get something unbranded (like a decent parka), I remove or obliterate the logo. I covered the apple on my phone and computer with electrical tape, even though I've been a Mac user for nearly 30 years. I am not a billboard. I reject status and status seeking behavior. I refuse to…

>I covered the apple on my phone and computer with electrical tape, even though I've been a Mac user for nearly 30 years. Doesn't that bring more attention to your computer?

True, even attempts to avoid attention can paradoxically bring attention. I'm not really motivated by how others see me. My basic intent is to remove as many logos and commercial messages from my life as possible.

With the MacBook, it really depends on how the blocking is done. If I put more effort into it and cover the entire lid very carefully I could make it look very unassuming. I'm content to just slap a piece of tape over the logo and be done. It's a game to me. I get pleasure out of blocking or fighting even the tiniest examples of corporate persuasion in my life.

It's not for everyone. You do you.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by zuzun »

synu wrote: post #86
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A significant portion of fashion is wearing fashion logos.

As you get into the really expensive design stuff from brands, logos disappear. And of course, the people who buy the expensive stuff consider the cheaper stuff to be barbarian.

The expensive stuff still bears the trademark of the brand, the lead designer, or the collection. It's more subtle, but ultimately the reason why people buy it. And some brands really just sell the logo at a high price, like Hermes or Louis Vuitton.

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Post by lemax »

In the fashion buying world, high end brands will force stockists to buy a certain number of units of the logo crap (tees etc) in order to get units of the more desirable/unique seasonal pieces. FWIW, as someone who leans toward a lot of high end, most of the work of shopping is wading through that junk.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by dhosek »

marssaxman wrote: post #110
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I make a point of either removing or covering logos on my clothing and accessories when I can't find unbranded options. A seam ripper is useful for removing sewn-on patch style logos. For embroidered or embossed logos, I often sew on a Cascadian flag patch - all of my backpacks and utility bags have them!

I thought you said Canadian flag patch and I remembered back in the 80s hearing about friends traveling in Europe who would sew Canadian flag patches on their backpacks to hide the fact that they were from the US.

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Post by formerly_proven »

brookside wrote: post #14
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

Uniqlo means university toilet in German.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by kube-system »

I don't think it's necessarily a good assumption that people treat self-chosen avatar representations the same way they'd treat an actual human. It is common for people to use avatars in a type of expression that they wouldn't do in real life, and the participants may have been affected by this.

i.e. Avatars are free, fungible in quality, and those who choose those symbols they may be signaling an aspiration for these symbols. Rather than signaling an achievement for wealth or an appreciation for luxury, it may be signaling a desperation for wealth. Would the people who can actually afford luxury goods plaster those symbols on their avatars?

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by corrral »

kingnothing wrote: post #128
brookside wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

Also J Crew. They have great t-shirts made from actual cotton instead of plastic blends.

They also, crucially, have sizing beyond just S/M/L et c. but within each they have regular (fat) slim (kinda fat—this is me) and tall. I think I've even seen tall-slim and maybe one other size on there (do they have a Trim size for people who are actually skinny, or is that another brand I'm thinking of?)

That's a must for getting a decent fit for off-the-rack clothes. Even t-shirts.

Plus, they don't even put logos on their polos, which is the one place that actually-nice clothes can get away with a logo. They're not the best-constructed, but they're not terrible, and no logo. BB's polos are better-made and use nicer material but when I wear them I feel like a douche because of the stupid embroidered sheep logo. I think both favor tennis-tail though, which sucks if you like to wear them untucked.

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Post by arkitaip »

danielvaughn wrote: post #12
blueflow wrote: post #2

Any kind of self-promotion is unpleasant, except to other self-promoters. For them its competitive. And yes, this includes the virtue emojis on Twitter and GitHub.

I live in South Florida, a little bit above Miami, and work out of this little co-working space. A couple weeks ago, a new member joined, and after talking with him a bit, I learned that he had worked on the founding team for some very famous technology (don't want to name it publicly). So pretty impressive, but the guy is down to earth and humble about it, which I really respected. Some other people in the space (no…

Now imagine those people being recruiters, bosses and other gate keepers with considerable power over careers. It's dangerous to be a humble introvert in a world that's anything but.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by syntaxing »

detritus wrote: post #77
brookside wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

I've worn a 'uniform' based around Uniqlo's long sleeved tees for about 15 years now and I've noticed the quality drop off remarkably over the past few years. A shirt will barely last a few months now, whilst I still occasionally wear a [much be-holed] first generation from way back when and it's kept its size, shape and still feels soft. New ones shrink and feel crunchy after a few washes. Oh, and they're about twic…

Haven’t bought clothes from them in a while because they last so long but the “line” matters too. My standard cotton ones are starting break but the suprima cotton ones are still going strong 4 years later.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by gavinray »

danielvaughn wrote: post #12
blueflow wrote: post #2

Any kind of self-promotion is unpleasant, except to other self-promoters. For them its competitive. And yes, this includes the virtue emojis on Twitter and GitHub.

I live in South Florida, a little bit above Miami, and work out of this little co-working space. A couple weeks ago, a new member joined, and after talking with him a bit, I learned that he had worked on the founding team for some very famous technology (don't want to name it publicly). So pretty impressive, but the guy is down to earth and humble about it, which I really respected. Some other people in the space (no…

Which coworking space at you at out of curiosity? (If you're comfortable answering)

I live in Kendall and am always on the lookout for decent ones that aren't the WeWork's.

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