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YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

toyg wrote: post #45
f6v wrote: post #8

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The achievements aren’t in any way tainted by their nationality, citizenship, sex, sexual orientation, age, etc.

Well... I'm sorry if I reach for the reductio at Hitlerum, but any achievements Nazi scientists might have reached in concentration camps are definitely tainted. Similarly, achievements in the field of online consumer analysis in a country where consumer-privacy protections are nonexistent, surely should be considered tainted...?

> definitely tainted

Operation Paperclip...?

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by chupasaurus »

guerrilla wrote: post #57
chupasaurus wrote: post #30

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They've started to do so before the law was adjusted

Like Facebook, Twitter and every other forum did? I wonder if there were any consequences if they didn't.

Basically they've taken a step further with censorship of all media not controlled by government which at the time (2014) couldn't been penalized whatsoever.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by yonixw »

keewee7 wrote: post #133

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Bad comment. First, can you please name the founder? Because according to wiki Ilya Segalovich never lived in Israel and Arkady_Volozh lives in Tel Aviv (Not a settlement). Both Jewish, so why present it as some "must-be-hidden-cause" connection with Israel?

Also, nothing shady from Israel side in term of sanctions. They have a large Jewish community in both Russia and Ukraine and need to be on good term with both to have their gov helping in supporting (or evacuating) them. Not to mention Russia has heavy presence in Syria which borders Israel. A conflict with Russia without anything like a NATO back is out of the question.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by cmsj »

ok123456 wrote: post #156
bgandrew wrote: post #155

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no it's not. they straight up serve kremlin, promoting kremlin fake news and silencing russian opposition (not much to silence but still). they can have whatever functionality they like, I still won't use it in billion years.

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Yeah we definitely shouldn't worry about the political sympathies/vulnerabilities of the web services we use as the foundations of our shared knowledge...

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

pembrook wrote: post #138

Side note: Yandex search is awesome, and I really hope they stay alive forever. It's the only functional image search nowadays, after our Google overlords neutered their own product out of fear over lawyers/regulation and a disdain for power users. You can't even search for images "before:date" in Google anymore.

> Google overlords neutered their own product out of fear over lawyers/regulation

What kind of lawyers/regulation do you have in mind? If anything, I'd find the opposite: lawyers and copyright holders should be grateful for such a tool that - when it was still working - allowed you to trace websites using your images illegally.

Now they all use Yandex for this purpose, with relatively good results.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

FpUser wrote: post #125
f6v wrote: post #26

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They might as well agree with it. Or agree with some of it. It just strikes me how everyone wants to put everyone else into these well-defined black-and-white boxes. I get that it’s simpler, but it’s often at odds with reality.

>"It just strikes me how everyone ..." Because most of those "everyone's" are not facing the choices themselves and are basically keyboard warriors. Let's see what they say when they'll be asked to sacrifice their own well being to be on a "high moral ground".

I think we're already seeing that in recent French elections. I have a feeling this is only the beginning.

As a relatively neutral party in all of this whose country hasn't tainted itself (but who nevertheless spent all my live under a similar autocracy), I can't help but shake my head at keyboard revolutionaries who definitely would have overthrown the regime, if only they lived in Russia. You just have no freaking idea what you're talking about. Guard your democracy as best you can so you don't have to find out.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by aaaaaaaaata »

varispeed wrote: post #126
danuker wrote: post #9

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Coming from Russia doesn't mean you agree with government policy. If you saw people get arrested as soon as they start protesting, what would you do?

This is a stupid argument. Ukrainians are being killed and you compare that to fear of being arrested? It's a nice excuse. "Oh yes I don't support my government, but you know these arrests, I'd rather stay in my cosy home and enjoy my tea. Now could you please lift the sanctions? I already said I don't support my government, why normal people like me should suffer?" etc etc

Wait until you hear about the folks your country is killing!

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by simonh »

ok123456 wrote: post #156
bgandrew wrote: post #155

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no it's not. they straight up serve kremlin, promoting kremlin fake news and silencing russian opposition (not much to silence but still). they can have whatever functionality they like, I still won't use it in billion years.

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It's not that Russia Bad, it's that if you know a search engine will serve you censored, biased results that makes it an unreliable search engine.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by dicknuckle »

dTal wrote: post #163
keewee7 wrote: post #133

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What have Israel connections got to do with shadiness? What are you insinuating?

Settling land that was recently taken from Palestinian families by force, often (literally) knocking the existing houses over with a bulldozer. In my opinion, that's a moral red flag to participate in such an atrocity.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by ask_b123 »

pfortuny wrote: post #25
egorfine wrote: post #6

I have huge respect for developers at Yandex. It's kind of sad that achievements like these are tainted by the fact that they come from Russia (and I speak as a Ukrainian). I wonder if the permissive license is able to mitigate that.

The achievements cannot be tainted. Kolmogorov complexity is (I hope) untainted. Also, Hilbert’s problems are not untainted (and he never flew Nazi Germany!).

I think the correct word might be fled -> he never fled.
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