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Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

pid-1 wrote: post #62
Tozen wrote: post #36

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Why in the world do competitors of this programming language insist on dragging out evaluations from 3 years ago, which state that V is vaporware and before the language was even released? This is 2022, not 2019, and we are talking a hundred releases later ( https://github.com/vlang/v/releases ). At least stick to the current evaluation (or attack), which is more relevant, and make points from there. But, keep in min…

Yeah you can't buy trust. Once it's done is done. I'm not touching a language developed by folks who don't see a problem in scamming users, sorry.

No scamming coming here whatsoever. And this is coming from a LONG TERM patron/donor.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by amedvednikov »

crazywulf wrote: post #131
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I don't think this article contains any hatred. There is absolutely nothing wrong with an unfinished language - take a look at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31775216 (2 days ago) for an example. This article criticises V for presenting itself as a usable language , when it definitely isn't, with all these features which don't work.

I don't think it is fair to criticize the language like that without having "0.2 ALPHA" in the title of the ycombinator title and the article. In fact the hole article does not contain the word "alpha" or explaining the state once. It reads like that the language is expected to be ready and that all features need to work now, but they don't. "At this time, I would not recommend spending time on V. I would also be ver…

> I'm also curious if the author even tried to interact with the community > Hopefully he created some bugs on github

He didn't.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

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Nah that article is old as hell - time for new information. Things change. I also despise how many people want to shit on this new language before it even takes off. Why are so many people frothing at the chance to disparage this language and it's author? Never seen something like this.

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100% right. It's sick. As a donor and supporter of this VALIANT AND VALID effort, I applaud the V community. It's full of sincere passion, love and is putting forth a great effort to realize something useful and needed in this sector.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

jitl wrote: post #12

My recommendation is that if you like the look of V, you should consider Zig or Odin as well. Personally, Zig seems like the most promising C-but-modern language due to the interesting compile-time programming features and impressive investment in toolchain infrastructure.

Nah, very much personally dislike those two languages for various and many (predominantly technical, but some aesthetics are involved as well) reasons. V hits a sweet spot coming from a Ruby background.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by haskellandchill »

ylluminate wrote: post #164

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Really? I didn't catch that vibe at all. You're saying if you do this without involving the community it is trolling? I guess it is fair to run the article by the community somehow, but I'm not sure the best approach to that. I'm doing a similar thing for Nim so I would like to not be seen as trolling.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

maleldil wrote: post #81
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Why do you keep saying "competitors"? Do you really think every V detractor in this thread has their own pocket language they want to shill for at V's expense? I don't think that's the case. I believe most people just don't like seeing others spreading lies and like when they are refuted.

I think they are using that term because of some very early experiences that the community faced from a clear perception in this regard. It was so sad to see these other communities descend to such slimy depths.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

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What's your deal, is V your language or something?

Some of us have some level of passion about it because we're long term supporters and donors and don't AT ALL feel like our investment has been in vain.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by ylluminate »

iamsahebgiri wrote: post #17
jitl wrote: post #12

My recommendation is that if you like the look of V, you should consider Zig or Odin as well. Personally, Zig seems like the most promising C-but-modern language due to the interesting compile-time programming features and impressive investment in toolchain infrastructure.

Where does language like Vala stand? Is it worth checking out?

Vala seemed interesting to me quite a while ago, but V ticks the right boxes.

Re: V Language Review

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Post by vlang1dot0 »

haskellandchill wrote: post #175
ylluminate wrote: post #164

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Really? I didn't catch that vibe at all. You're saying if you do this without involving the community it is trolling? I guess it is fair to run the article by the community somehow, but I'm not sure the best approach to that. I'm doing a similar thing for Nim so I would like to not be seen as trolling.

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Re: V Language Review

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Post by amedvednikov »

unclad5968 wrote: post #66
sergiotapia wrote: post #48

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Nah that article is old as hell - time for new information. Things change. I also despise how many people want to shit on this new language before it even takes off. Why are so many people frothing at the chance to disparage this language and it's author? Never seen something like this.

Mostly because the author completely scammed the shit out of people by promising a ton of things to garner patreon support before open sourcing what was essentially a hobby project at the time. I haven't followed it very closely, but last I heard about it was not delivering on the "autofree" feature. I dont really care about the language. I've tried it a couple times and it's nothing special (to me) so I moved on, bu…

you heard wrong, it's been delivering quite well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmB8ea8uLsM

no one has been scammed, whatever that means in opensource development

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