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Post by MrTrvp »

redredrobot wrote: post #163
forrestthewoods wrote: post #41

The copyright laws around this are fascinating. They're adamant it must be non-commercial, they must be credited, and it can't be mixed with any other generated content. Meanwhile their content is exclusively derived from popular commercial products. Oh and they also make money via Patreon donations. I dunno. Feels a little gross to me. Eventually there is going to be a big copyright case about a model trained with c…

I would imagine it will end with a similar outcome to video game likenesses - a person owns their likeness and you can't create products that includes their likeness without their consent.

What would that mean for parodies though, death of satire. Can likenesses have fair use or perhaps only for for positive representations of the person?

Re: 15.ai

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Post by ellieh »

15ai wrote: post #146
mixermachine wrote: post #145

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Have you thought about other hosters? Maybe try contabo.com or hetzner.com Should be a lot cheaper if you mainly need CPU power.

Unfortunately, this is mostly run on the GPU. Believe it or not, AWS was by far the cheapest.

Hetzner sometimes have GPU instances available on their auction site, and if you get in touch with them they can sometimes sort something out!

They used to sell them openly, but coin mining ruined that :(

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Post by Zababa »

15ai wrote: post #115

Hello. I made this. I'm a bit shocked at how many people are getting things wrong and taking things out of context, so perhaps I could answer some questions. To clarify: I have not been with MIT in years. I was paid the minimum hourly rate (roughly $14 an hour) to work on a related project during my undergraduate years, which eventually evolved into this project years down the road. (In fact, I had to pay for my own…

Thank you for this, it's great to have passionate people working on interesting projects like those and sharing them with everyone.

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Post by imdsm »

15ai wrote: post #115

Hello. I made this. I'm a bit shocked at how many people are getting things wrong and taking things out of context, so perhaps I could answer some questions. To clarify: I have not been with MIT in years. I was paid the minimum hourly rate (roughly $14 an hour) to work on a related project during my undergraduate years, which eventually evolved into this project years down the road. (In fact, I had to pay for my own…

This is a fantastic project but I wish you would expand Spongebob to include Patrick, Squidward, Plankton, and my favourite, Mr Krab$!

Re: 15.ai

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Post by what-imright »

jhanschoo wrote: post #148
what-imright wrote: post #110

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it kind of sucks, not accurate or convincing. if they spent less time making the disclaimer and more on the product… Reminds me of the 90s when everyone had a secret weapon IP in the making, until open source showed by example how futile and silly that approach was. You want people to use your work, because then they need you.

After reading the replies of the creator here on the effort that they have put into the project, would you still stand by this opinion?

Well, lets not confuse well intentions and hard circumstances with bad product and poor execution. My criticism is of what I experienced as a user, and it really doesn’t matter what the hacker news community or myself thinks, what the OP cares about is the user experience of a larger group. If you burn the user at the door it sets the tone of the experience and further, again, the product wasn’t impressive and the IP not worth defending. I mean where is this even going? If you train on actors voices they will come at you with an army of lawyers. Spongebob squarepants imitations aren’t going to pay the rent. There’s no game plan here

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Post by mfkp »

paulsutter wrote: post #31
marcofatica wrote: post #4

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> But seriously: how did you get the domain `15.ai`? it's an MIT project so I'm sure that was a factor

.ai domains cost a couple hundred bucks a year so domains are very available / not widely used by domain squatters (Its the country domain for the island of Anguilla, pop 15,000)

$65/year on Porkbun, not terrible.

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Post by layer8 »

deeplearner1 wrote: post #112
redredrobot wrote: post #95

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The author took someone else's IP as training data, trained a model on someone else's compute, and then gets extremely bent out of shape when others use the model without crediting them?

This entire thread is honestly so disturbing, this comment especially. Not only is it rife with misinformation (using copyrighted material for training is totally legal and the whole project is paid out of pocket), but is it really that big of a deal to want credit for the work they’ve done? The developer has had their work stolen by companies, influencers, and grifters, and people here are getting pissy that they ca…

> wait 10 seconds to wait for a popup

The problem is that after having to wait for 10 seconds to reject their terms of service (which you should be able to reject right away) before even being able to see what the site is about, they are rickrolling you, effectively giving you the finger for not wanting to agree to their terms without context. That‘s quite unprofessional, counterproductive and antagonistic.

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Post by Kiro »

redredrobot wrote: post #168
bilekas wrote: post #164

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I share this sentiment entirely. There seems to be a growing trend on HN that negativity is popular. A project like this, to me at least, would seem to be right up HN's street. Shame to see the toxicity over a passion project, whos creator generously went out of his way to answer the questions and ridiculous comments.

I think there are a bunch of people who consider this work unethical or at least deeply in the grey. The negativity isn't that surprising

Just stop it. We need good vibes, not this toxic hate or we will drive the cool people away.
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