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Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by qu4z-2 »

suprjami wrote: post #140
pzlarsson wrote: post #40

It has a trackpoint with 2 buttons which tells us they did not put any serious effort into this input device. Would you use a 2 button mouse without scroll-wheel or a touchpad without 2-fingers scrolling? I suspect this low effort goes for the whole product which is a budget laptop with marketing directed at decision makers instead of users.

Confusing comment. Did you miss the massive touchpad beneath the keyboard? Surely it has two-finger scrolling. I would expect three-finger middle click emulation (which kinda sucks I agree).

People who are excited about the trackpoint probably aren't interested in switching to another input method for scrolling. Personally I usually disable the touchpad ASAP on any new laptop I get.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by yumraj »

pjob wrote: post #148
yumraj wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To put things into perspective, Apple charges $400 to upgrade from $16GB to $32GB. So I’ll say that expecting 32GB RAM in a $1K laptop is a little too unrealistic.

I don't think you should use Apple to put upgrade pricing in perspective. They've used inflated pricing to extract extra money from a captive audience for many years. Other OEMs cannot demand similar premiums for commodity products.

Yes, I know Apple prices are highly inflated.

I was using it to highlight the unreasonable-ness, IMHO of course, of the above request.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by qu4z-2 »

jeffbee wrote: post #17
aarongray wrote: post #5

It has a trackpoint mouse like the Thinkpads <3

All HP EliteBooks have one, right?

My work one certainly does, and I've found that replacing the cap with an official ThinkPad one gets you about 50% of the way to "ThinkPad-quality TrackPoint". But it started out as "Is this purely decorative? Have you tried to use this?!" so even with the red cover it was "Well, I guess it works for minimal mousing inbetween typing."

These days I use an external ThinkPad keyboard on it, since I'm mostly docked at a desk anyway.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by zmmmmm »

16G is not much RAM for a developer laptop. Do they understand what developers do these days? ie: running entire prod infrastructure using kubernetes or docker-compose on their dev setup is increasingly common.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by lumost »

oneplane wrote: post #161
hardwaresofton wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely. Imagine a world where perennially late to the market HP is chasing the trend of Linux on the laptop. We now live in that world. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31391880

The weird thing is that HP undermines their effort a bit by they doing the consumer bloatware thing where they 'load it up with stuff for you to do your job' according to their marketing material.

somewhere, someone must want this bloatware - otherwise it would have had to die out at some point. Although I'd be hard pressed to find this person.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by davidmurdoch »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #163
suprjami wrote: post #142

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Also, bold of you to assume Linux HiDPI support is up to the task. Evidently HP don't think so.

2x scaling just works, and has been that way for a while on desktop Linux. Not sure about the state of fractional scaling.

Try it with a multi-monitor set up at different resolutions.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by ghostly_s »

lumost wrote: post #176
oneplane wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The weird thing is that HP undermines their effort a bit by they doing the consumer bloatware thing where they 'load it up with stuff for you to do your job' according to their marketing material.

somewhere, someone must want this bloatware - otherwise it would have had to die out at some point. Although I'd be hard pressed to find this person.

The bloatware vendors pay them to include it.

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

2143 wrote: post #146
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #48

That's interesting; I thought System76 made Pop!_OS specifically to have a distro tuned to their hardware, but assuming this is as official as it looks that implies that they've started going for licensing it out to other vendors

Like nearly all other distros, you could install Pop!_OS on any machine. I've used it for a couple of years in a Dell Vostro laptop (which was factory-loaded with Ubuntu). Works totally fine.

Sure, but there's a difference between "this is available for users to install" and "this is available out of the box from a commercial vendor, who is advertising this as part of the product and is using System76 trademarks in their product page".

Re: HP Dev One Laptop with Pop_OS

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Post by sorry_outta_gas »

innocenat wrote: post #42
metadat wrote: post #33

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This is exactly my impression reading the post on laptops/phones here the past few days. I now understood why the manufactures doesn't really seems to care for this segment, as everyone seems to have enough dealbreakers that nothing's going to sell well.

I think it's pretty cool, right now I use the clevo-based lemur pro (I'm pretty happy with it) when mobile and would consider this for my next upgrade especially if a decent SKU exists at $1,100

my lemur with 1tb/16gb ram ended up costing around 2k I think

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