This is awesome! For comparison, a single fare ticket from the Stockholm suburb I live in to city Central costs about €8.70.
9 euros for a whole month seems like a dream!
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#172Wild - that gets me barely a days worth of tube travel in london (6.5 EUR a day)
Daily fare cap is now £7.70 (€9.10) in London, and that's just for Zones 1-2. £14.10 if you want to go out to Zone 6.
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#173Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…
Somewhat off topic, but still:
> long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich)
Zurich is too deep in Switzerland to be covered anyways. (Salzburg, Kufstein, Basel Bad Bf, etc. however are in Austria/Switzerland but part of German rail rates and included in 9€ tickets)
And that DB bus doesn't exist anymore since the new electrified railway line to Lindau was opened two years ago, as Munucih-Zurich got way faster by train. (I guess Flixbus still offers it but Flix isn't part of 9€ either)
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#174Imagine something like this for the whole EU.
Are there cross country but regional rail lines?
Yes, there are! For example, I have travelled between Strasbourg and Basel (Switzerland) on a regional train, as well as between Milan and Nice, and between Nice and Barcelona (changing trains at the Spanish border due to the change of rail gauge). There's also a regional line connecting Barcelona and Puigcerdà (a town in the Spanish Pyrenees) which at certain times continues its service a further ~5km and terminates in Latour-de-Carol, a tiny village on the French side which is served by French regional services.
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#175I'm sure the private bus operators, who usually are the only cheap option to travel in Germany, are just thrilled by this additional market distortion.
> additional market distortion
Are they also thrilled by "additional market distortions" like subsidized oil import and processing and road infrastructure?
Or should we remove all tax-funded infrastructure investment and go back to the middle ages?
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’ll move energy use from highly inefficient personal vehicles burning gasoline to highly efficient trains using mostly renewable electricity, during the summer where more than enough electricity is available.
Still plenty of diesel run train engines in Germany. Also coal is still being burnt. So I don't think it is mostly renewable.
I think that the Deutsche Bahn runs 100% on clean energy.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)
Especially for traveling across Germany, this ticket isn't quite useful, however I feel like it is marketed as "free traveling across Germany for a month" which isn't really the case. Am wondering how everything will play out next couple of months.
Well, you can travel across Germany if you don't mind changing trains several times. And the "free traveling across Germany" means that one ticket is valid for all regional trains and all public transport in all Germany (as opposed to e.g. a ticket bought in Munich only being valid in the Munich region), which is quite a good offer anyway...
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#178When it gets crowded in Tokyo trains you are literally pushed against each other, back to front people against people, specially bad in summer where the aircon cannot keep up. That's only at 9am normally though, and so I do not consider jobs that make me be in the office at that time (9:30~10 is an order of magnitude better). WFH has been a blessing to Tokyo. So it was funny when I visited my sister in a rural town i…
Don't you know that there are seats on long-distance trains?
Unless people start sitting on each other's lap the aircon capacity is not going to be exceeded.
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#179Very important caveat for all of you who are thinking, “woo hoo, no need to buy that EuRail pass! Or to buy an expensive ICE ticket!” These tickets are good for all “Nah- und Regionalverkehr,” explicitly excluding ICE, IC, EC (international) and long-distance busses (like the one between Munich and Zürich) If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every…
> If the train number begins with RE or RB, you’re good, but of course, those are the slow ones that stop in every village along the way.
Well, that is not exactly true now, is it. REs do actually skip the vast majority of "villages" and are far from being the slow ones, comparatively.
Anyway, for comparisons sake here is some Hamburg -> Berlin options:
- By car (with low traffic, according to GMaps): 3h20
- Regional Trains (the ones you can use with 9-eur-ticket): 4h10, including 1-3 train changes depending on connection
- All trains: 1h50 with no change
Given that going by car will be considerably more expensive than a regional ticket (even the none-9-eur version) I would say that +1h might be a reasonable trade-off for a lot of people.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Our Dutch Scouts of age 15-17 also plan their own camps and do so on a shoestring budget, and it turns out that yes you can get from the Netherlands to the Czech Republic with all your camping gear using only like fifteen different German regional trains :-)
Related: We're a Czech couple, currently planning our vacation in the Netherlands, and we too are on a very tight budget. I wanted so bad to get there by train and spend the week there riding Dutch trains all over the place, but man, the train journey there and back is just as long as a car trip (~10-12 hours) and costs at least twice as much. Looks like we'll be taking our 50 MPG car instead and since it will be the…
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