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Post by thomasfedb »

jchw wrote: post #160
thomasfedb wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that you've clearly decided that trans activists have "delusions" I'm not sure there's much hope, however... - What changes to your language are they demanding? If you mean they ask you to refer to them in a particular way, then this is not an uncommon thing. People often ask to be referred to in a particular way. For example, most people don't like being called "fruitloop". - If what you mean by "anti-scientif…

Hopefully it was accidental and not a sleight of hand, but I hope you realize you pivoted a statement about the trans activists being pushed back against (that they are “deluded”) to being about trans people as a whole. I feel like this kind of pivot happens so often in bad faith that people now do it subconsciously and not even necessarily in bad faith but simply out of habit. Similarly, (but not necessarily in the…

Fixed! Yep, that was a slightly uncharitable reading of the parent post I accept.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by zionic »

jchw wrote: post #160
thomasfedb wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that you've clearly decided that trans activists have "delusions" I'm not sure there's much hope, however... - What changes to your language are they demanding? If you mean they ask you to refer to them in a particular way, then this is not an uncommon thing. People often ask to be referred to in a particular way. For example, most people don't like being called "fruitloop". - If what you mean by "anti-scientif…

Hopefully it was accidental and not a sleight of hand, but I hope you realize you pivoted a statement about the trans activists being pushed back against (that they are “deluded”) to being about trans people as a whole. I feel like this kind of pivot happens so often in bad faith that people now do it subconsciously and not even necessarily in bad faith but simply out of habit. Similarly, (but not necessarily in the…

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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by oblib »

FWIW Daphne's sister Becky said “Dave was the biggest bright spot for Daphne” before her suicide.

“Blaming Dave is beyond the wrong thing to do, “He helped her and let her be comfortable while talking with him. She had many demons; Dave Chappelle was NOT one of them.”

Source: https://nypost.com/2021/10/11/dave-chappelle-is-an-lgbtq-all...

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Post by mgh2 »

robonerd wrote: post #152
mgh2 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snowpiercer (series): Gave up after the main plot focused on maintaining a lie, not discovering a truth (conventional screenwriting). Other examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/pwp3t4/im_tired_of... Eventually got tired of Netflix's money cow strategy by sacrificing quality - buying original ideas and ruining them with more seasons for the sake of engagement: Designated Survivor, Money Heist, etc. Pigg…

> Snowpiercer: Gave up after the main plot focused on maintaining a lie, not discovering a truth (conventional screenwriting). What do you mean by this? The "geo-engineering backfired and made the world too cold" setting of the story? I found the movie schlocky and ham-fisted, but generally entertaining in a dumb-movie sort of way. I'm not sure what you mean by maintaining a lie and discovering truth.

The series, not the movie.

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Post by yibg »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

Seems like part of the general pattern of “if you are not with us you are against us” attitude. Now a days it’s not enough to not be for-[some injustice], you have to be actively anti-[some injustice] and tell the world that you are. Otherwise you are a bad person.

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Post by freebuju »

Major studios give creative concessions to foreign markets like China in order to be allowed into their film market. It was incredibly naive of Netflix to think they were too big that they could ignore feedback and input from strong audience bases. You can't build a mass market product based on servicing the needs of a woke minority in a functional market. The market will quickly remind you of this mistake when you don't have any more investors pumping funds into the business.

They need more than an ad-supported tier to come out of this. In the midst of a shaky market and lowest ever subscription numbers, they have no choice but to cater to all walks of audiences if they are to survive.

And spend less on shows, I was seeing crazy budgets to the tune of $30M per episode[0] on the new upcoming season of Stranger Things. That's now bad for the bottom line.

[0] https://decider.com/2022/04/21/stranger-things-season-4-30-m...

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Post by [deleted] »

Jiro wrote: post #159
ambrozk wrote: post #46

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Sidebar, but the "Cuties debacle" is nothing more than a moral panic. Cuties is a great movie about an immigrant kid struggling to cope with a broken home by escaping her parents and becoming a "normal French girl." She doesn't know how to fit in so she tries to gain acceptance with her non-immigrant school-friends by hyper-sexualizing herself. The story a searing criticism of the sexualization of children, not a cel…

It's really hard to tell the difference between "intended to disgust the viewer" and "intended to tittilate the viewer with a fetish I don't share". I mean, any scene of sexualizing children is going to disgust me. How am I supposed to know which ones are meant that way? (Also, consider the existence of exploitation films, which loudly proclaim how bad X is in order to have an excuse to show X to people who like seei…

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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by alexander-litty »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

It’s transphobic in the “hydrophobic” sense. I don’t think he merely pushes back on activists; I find he delegitimizes the movement altogether.

Which, disclaimer, I do think anyone should be free to do. But people who are offended must be free to share their thoughts as well, then.

It’s akin to saying alcohol addiction isn’t a real addiction. It’s not that you’re making fun of alcoholics, the idea of an alcohol addict, or the behavior and recovery of an alcohol addict — You’re instead devaluing the idea that someone can be addicted to alcohol, falsifying their reality.

Sure, many people can laugh at that, but it’s only going to be the people who can’t relate. The people who have never been familiar with or been victim to substance abuse can probably laugh at the idea that you can just “stop drinking right now, there, problem solved, now what was so hard about that?” because the idea is so foreign to them.

Humor will always be divisive, which means as a comedian you alone wield the responsibility for where that line will be drawn. Chapelle intentionally draws it on personal identity.

I think we can support better comedy than that. Anyone can make an in-crowd; A great comedian makes you the subject and makes you laugh about it too.

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