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Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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I don't need to own my OP-1, but I'm glad I do. It makes me happy every time I look at it.

The OP-1 is one of those products that makes me want to change my entire lifestyle and personality just so I could possibly justify owning it. It's just so neat .

That is so shallow. Also, I feel exactly the same way.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Especially with the Focusrite Scarlett Solo is obtainable for $119.

But the Solo is also nowhere near this in terms of functionality, so I'm not sure this is a great comparison.

Here's a better comparison: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG10XU--yamaha-mg10x...

"10-channel Analog Mixer with 4 Microphone Preamps, 3 Dedicated Stereo Line Channels, 1 Aux Send, EQ, 1-knob Compressors, and Digital Effects"

$230. It's bigger and needs to plug into a wall. But TBH I can't think of an application for a battery powered mixer.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.

If you actually build one yourself (not just limited to this particular mixer, but also e.g. analog synthesizers, FM synthesizers, samplers, …), you'll be surprised by how ridiculously overpriced almost all of the available audio hardware really is. The sad part is that in many cases your prototype will be cheaper than the commercially available audio hardware. In practice you'll probably skip the "and bring it to ma…

> The sad part is that in many cases your prototype will be cheaper than the commercially available audio hardware.

Are you including those probably custom knurled knobs, buttons and sliders in that guesstimate too? Because those are the sort of things I'd expect to bring the cost up here. Heck, that beautifully finished aluminum case with its beveled edges alone is good chunk of money.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.

not understanding this argument. i'm not a synth manufacturer. korg and roland put out plenty of gear with great features for a lower price than this

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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"Why is it so expensive?" - commentary from someone who does this for a living at Sequential Small Volume - each unit is more expensive than a large volume product, you don't get price breaks on any components or tooling costs Design focused - Who is the product for? It isn't for people who want to spend 250$ on a Behringer mixer. It is for people who want something that is high quality and doesn't break. Reliable. F…

> Reliable. It is for people who want something that is high quality and doesn't break.

My TE OP-1 synth has not really matched these adjectives.

One of the keyboard keys is misconstructed, so it’s on a hair trigger. The lightest brush will cause it to get set off. I have to replace the keyboard at some point to fix it. This should have been caught in QC.

It also undergoes fairly frequent software crashes (esp. for a musical instrument). I’ve crashed it at least 3 times doing random UI interactions.

Given that this is one of their flagship products, and a lot of people use adjectives like “reliable” and “quality” to describe it, I’m very skeptical that these descriptions are actually accurate when applied to other TE products.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you actually build one yourself (not just limited to this particular mixer, but also e.g. analog synthesizers, FM synthesizers, samplers, …), you'll be surprised by how ridiculously overpriced almost all of the available audio hardware really is. The sad part is that in many cases your prototype will be cheaper than the commercially available audio hardware. In practice you'll probably skip the "and bring it to ma…

As someone who literally does this for a living at Sequential, you couldn't be more wrong

I don't do this for a living and can't imagine how a statement like "your prototype will be cheaper than commercially available options" could be taken seriously by anyone.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Hoo boy, Teenage Engineering is starting to get on my nerves. This is a neat piece of kit, but the specs on it pretty much relegate it to the "toy" category of their lineup. You're telling me people are going to use this 48kHz dongle as a portable DAC? You probably have a better output on your laptop. Pretty absurd. This thing is pretty much a physical iPhone app... that costs more than an iPhone. What really pisses…

Try to think of it in the same context as a watch. There are price ranges from $10 to probably $1M+. They all have a function of tell you the time. Price is a silly thing to be upset about it unless you truly needed it to live (which no one does).

Except Behringer doesn't clone Omega... yet!

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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if i wanted a simple mixer and usb audio interface with fx send and i didn't want to spend a thousand dollars on it, what's the range of alternatives i've spent under $150 on every individual item in my kit so far and it feels silly to blow past that on a mixer.

yamaha mixers are good

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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slightly off-topic but I often listen to podcasts while playing video games and I've long wanted a simple device—ideally battery-powered and portable but I'll take what I can get—that takes two audio inputs and produces one audio output, allowing me to crossfade between the two as needed, so I can mix between two audio sources on the fly. does something like this exist, and if so, how expensive is it? I haven't been…

2 channel audio mixer, pretty much one of the most common devices out there

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Like most Teenage Engineering products, it's an absolutely amazing-looking, well-engineered product with a ton of functionality that does a thing I don't actually need for far more money than I can justify spending on it.

is it good engineering to put a synthesizer and sequencer inside of a mixer? how do you even use those features?
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