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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by Apocryphon » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:40 AM UTC

munificent wrote: post #152

fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #144

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What are you planning to do with all that financial independence? This question is a pet pieve of mine. The number of good answers is endless, and its sad that you would even ask it. Working is slavery, however you want to slice it.

> The number of good answers is endless. So why wait until retirement to start seeking them? > Working is slavery, however you want to slice it. This is a thought-terminating cliche. Slavery is slavery. Working is an arrangement you enter into voluntarily with a series of pros and cons for all participants. Is the CEO if a company a slave? The researcher who finds a cure for a disease a family member died from? A mus…

What you’re saying is undeniably true. At the same time when one considers high-tech as practiced by Silicon Valley and Seattle big tech companies and startups, it’s easy to see how people could become cynical towards work. Cultish company cultures, dishonest pontificating business leaders, market forces that incentivize disloyalty, undergirded by some truly unaffordable housing costs- it’s easy to see how people can get burned out by false promises of work, at least in this industry. It doesn’t help that tech is particularly preachy in its delusions of morality, unlike say, the financial industry.

And as with such industries or industry scenes where big amounts of money involved, as in Wall Street or Hollywood, people who get into Silicon Valley tend to view things through a purely transactional lens after a while. After all, that’s how these workplaces view them- not as repositories of higher meaning, but as interchange economic producers. Such is the nature of dumb money.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by rdtwo » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:41 AM UTC

AsusToss wrote: post #19

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

It’s wild to me that the only reason his wife gave him 30 mins/day of personal time was because of the financial payoff. Bizarre dude and story.

Welcome to co-parenting in the 2020s.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by glouwbug » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:48 AM UTC

I'm forcing myself to write my own programming language and then solve leetcode with it to stand a chance in today's interview rodeo. If you're interested: https://github.com/glouw/rr/tree/master/examples/leetcode

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by kleinsch » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:52 AM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #84

This sounds like a game for younger people. But then again, do FAANGs even hire middle aged developers? I ask because of genuine curiosity -- I have a decent network and could probably land another job pretty easily, but only one of my closer contacts works for a FAANG. So the only way I could even try would be through the front door, as it were.

Yea, they all do. That’s who mentors all the juniors they hire. It can be harder coming from non-FAANG, but plenty of people do it every year, esp as all those companies are expanding. Gotta put in the LeetCode grind though, bc other than Netflix, they all do those interviews.

I’m at about 15 yoe, got interviews at 3/5 of the FAANGs with only startup experience on my resume.

As others said in thread, get those Blind referrals.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by kleinsch » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:53 AM UTC

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #75

babelfish wrote: post #26

> I would have the third-highest new offer on Levels out of over 200 offers on their site Looking at Facebook's salary data[0], does this mean the offer was in the ~$2M range? [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-En...

managers seem to get much more money than their corresponding peers on the software track according to this website.

Not at FB at least, E6 ($568K) is M1 equivalent ($584K).

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by guacaswole » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:54 AM UTC

chrisBob wrote: post #69

babelfish wrote: post #26

> I would have the third-highest new offer on Levels out of over 200 offers on their site Looking at Facebook's salary data[0], does this mean the offer was in the ~$2M range? [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-En...

8-10 YOE and new offers only means he was right around a cool $1M/yr

What does this mean out of interest? Like $250k salary and $750k stock?

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by Something1234 » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #142

cebert wrote: post #124

Is something wrong with software engineering interviews that one could reasonably need to spend months prepping for interviews? Leetcode problems can be fun and interesting, but seldom represent problems and skills I employ daily as a more senior software engineer. Studying these problems won’t help me much at my current employer and likely wouldn’t after I passed the interview gauntlet at another firm.

(Chronic) Licensing and accreditation are caching the result of an operation. Since no such licensing or accreditation exists in software, the operation has to be repeated over and over, which is difficult.

And most licensing and accreditation is a joke. It's never firm enough. These certs can be gamed. Colleges are grade inflated and too many idiots are passed.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by solarmist » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #75

babelfish wrote: post #26

> I would have the third-highest new offer on Levels out of over 200 offers on their site Looking at Facebook's salary data[0], does this mean the offer was in the ~$2M range? [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-En...

managers seem to get much more money than their corresponding peers on the software track according to this website.

Senior engineer III on levels.fyi is approximately even with a team manager TC-wise, but above that they seem to diverge rapidly.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by treyfitty » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 2:02 AM UTC

bally0241 wrote: post #81

treyfitty wrote: post #39

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I do something like this as a first pass, but prune based on Values. I wouldn’t ever consider Amazon… but at $1MM… that’s kinda “change your values” type money.

Out of curiosity, what turns you off about Amazon?

Let’s put it this way: if a company tries to brainwash you with 14 “core” principles, those cogs aren’t principled at all.

I went through the loop and made it to final round, despite my reservations just to see what it would be like. Of the 6 people I spoke to, I only had 1 positive experience. Everyone else was either being aggressive for no reason, or they were regurgitating words and had no value in the org. Hell, the “bar raiser” was the worst and asked follow up questions that were answered in the questions prior. On the design interview, another interviewer bragged about winning some AI award and was adamant that Kafka was the optimal solution for real-time doc editing- not my proposed web sockets… he was just downright rude about it.

Anyway, Amazon sucks for many reasons, but the biggest reason is that they are so successful brainwashing people inside and outside. You can see their success in all this by observing how quick we forget that their policies force employees to piss in bottles, die working in a tornado, and unethically hold a beauty contest to siphon tax payer dollars from the lowest bidder

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by lumost » Sat, Apr 09, 2022, 2:08 AM UTC

neilv wrote: post #159

gleenn wrote: post #149

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The very last bit of the article interestingly stated that they author wouldn't spend time doing prep again, they would only make sure they applied with a referral. I definitely agree, it's kind of a blight on our industry that the interview process is so contorted compared to the actual work we're supposed to do.

I thought maybe the author meant that they'd retain enough of the months of prep that they'd already done.

Generally, once you've practiced enough to clear most tech rounds once - it's not too difficult to do it again. If I'm going in for an interview then I might still need to spend ~1-2 weeks practicing again to do well. Earlier in my career I spent months practicing LC.