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Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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Useful for a very brief stay, but in general I'd much rather rent a full-sized bike.

Everyone would. They are cheaper and better in every way other than the fact you cant bring one on public transport.

Yeah I was very into personal electric last mile transport for a while, but realized you can't beat the city bike rentals for convenience and 80/20 efficiency. If they're not available I just walk.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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It looks absolutely amazing, but calling it "affordable" at €1600+ is a stretch. You can find non-electric folding bikes for under €200 that are quite sturdy and dependable (although not that small when folded). A few months ago I bought a used folding bike for €100, equipped it with a motor and battery that cost less than €400, for use on train trips. Nothing feels better than getting out of a long-distance train tr…

I got a kick out of the banner at the top of the shop answering everyone's first concern which is "Why is the Kwiggle so affordable?" A clever way of answering the actual first question "why so expensive?"

They think its clever - I think most people would see through it and just be pissed. Not sure why companies think they can get away insulting the intelligence of their consumers (who, in this case, would have to be wealthy enough to afford their product and hence can be reasonably expected to be smart enough to spot it).

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

#173
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Did you ever look at the Strida? It was designed in response to the Brompton, with a simpler fold and the ability to wheel it around on its actual wheels while folded, rather than little casters. It doesn't fold quite as small as a Brompton (it's more golf-bag like), but the footprint is similar if there's something to lean it against. I'm very happy with mine, and it has most of the advantages you list - luggage rac…

it's either brompton or strida. other bikes are just dumb. tern. dumb. moulton dumb. pacific cycles dumb. dahon dumb. birdie dumb. bike friday , kinda dumb. old raleigh folding tanks ....the list goes on. any bike with under 16"" wheels is also totally stupid . retardedly so, unless it's for some niche clown world where bumps don't exist and you don't ride the thing farther than a mile.

What do you have against bd-1/birdies ? Outside of the lock clip that could be improved, it has very few compromises and can be maintained/upgraded without proprietary parts.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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A discussion about folding bikes would not be complete without mentioning Helix. Helix folds almost as small as a Brompton but has 24” wheels and standard bicycle components such as disc brakes, Shimano/SRAM drivetrain etc. Also the fold is the most compact possible, even more compact than Brompton in terms of maximizing the use of space. It also fits in a standard airline luggage without any disassembly which few ot…

That's a beautiful bike!

Thank you. Designing it was a labour of love. It’s function over form in every detail. No gimmicks, cheap materials or manufacturing short cuts like using castings for example. The welded frame components are all cnc machined from titanium blocks and the frame is robotically TIG welded in an argon chamber in our Toronto factory. We literally spare no expense in making them.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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I've spent a long time with folding bikes over the years. My advice: bite the bullet and buy a Brompton[1]. Yes, Bromptons are expensive. But they ride like a bicycle, have gears, a stiff enough frame, luggage racks etc. There's very little compromise. The fastest I've done on mine is 45 kph and I've ridden 70km in a day. I carry it on and off buses and trains multiple times a day without issue. In the past I had an…

I've done lots of touring, including one 1600km trip in China, with a Dahon Speed P8, which has 20-inch wheels, which are likely a bit more pleasant than the 16-inch wheels of the Brompton. It's also a good option if you're looking for something lower priced. If you take the wheels and pedals off and pack it correctly it's possible to fit inside a Samsonite Oyster 29 suitcase which fits regulation dimensions to be accepted as normal check-in baggage on most airlines.

That said the bike in TFA looks interesting for multi-modal commuter use in e.g. Singapore or other such cities where a Brompton likely would not be accepted on the subway.

There's also the JZ88 (https://jz88.com/shop.html) which is claimed to be Singapore MRT-acceptable but I haven't used it.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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I tried a Brompton and a Birdy, and I went with the 9-speed Birdy with shocks when I lived in Macao. It took me a week to get the folding down in a variety of situations, but it rode just like a full-size road bike. The Brompton didn't seem anywhere near the comfort or ease of getting up to speed. Maybe Brompton makes a better model now? I bought the Birdy in 2010-11. I still have it, and it rides great.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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I got a kick out of the banner at the top of the shop answering everyone's first concern which is "Why is the Kwiggle so affordable?" A clever way of answering the actual first question "why so expensive?"

They think its clever - I think most people would see through it and just be pissed. Not sure why companies think they can get away insulting the intelligence of their consumers (who, in this case, would have to be wealthy enough to afford their product and hence can be reasonably expected to be smart enough to spot it).

Because it's telling the customer that if you don't think it's affordable you're not the target market.

Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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That's a beautiful bike!

Thank you. Designing it was a labour of love. It’s function over form in every detail. No gimmicks, cheap materials or manufacturing short cuts like using castings for example. The welded frame components are all cnc machined from titanium blocks and the frame is robotically TIG welded in an argon chamber in our Toronto factory. We literally spare no expense in making them.

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Re: Folding bicycle small enough to fit in hand luggage

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I don't think I could ever get over the look of the small wheels. It seems like the fanny pack of bikes: pretty useful but you gotta look dorky if you want to use it. It's vain but I'd find it hard to believe I'm alone here.

I get random compliments on my Brompton. Like seriously, an old lady stopped on the sidewalk while I was unfolding and said, "That's a beautiful bike." Also teenagers yowling "Nice bike!" as I cruised by. It's weird.
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