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Vanced Discontinuation

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Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#171
post #31

Broadly, I think it would be a mistake to read this with the idea that you're going to get the truth out of it. This smells very much like CYA spin. Not mad at all of course, do what you gotta.

They're saying here that YouTube makes most of their money through merchandise, and not ads. Which just isn't true.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#172
post #87

> The main source of income for youtube isn't ads. YouTube revolves around the merchandise and YouTube Premium subscriptions. > If you are talking about creators who are not earning money for using vanced, you should know they won't make millions out of those ads. ... right. Feel free to keep telling yourselves that.

Last I heard YouTube makes 20 billion in ad revenue, and creators get like 45% of that

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#173
post #7

I'm really sad I missed the boat on Vanced by one day. I'd heard about it for a long time and randomly decided to finally start using it only to find all the download links had been removed the day before. Youtube ads have become horrendously annoying. Does anyone know if the apks can be found on any archive site?

YouTube premium is 12 dollars a month. For me, this is worth it to remove ads and add background play and picture-in-picture.

I'd pay for Youtube Premium if they'd let me use SponsorBlock with their Android app.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dislikes are a pretty big feature. Also sponsorblock which is a must for some people. And picture-in-picture mode was great. I could watch the news while seeing how close an uber was to me without having to switch apps.

The sponsorblock seems pretty hypocritical: “I don’t want to give money to Google”… “Actually I don’t want to give money to creators either”

There was already the option to scrub past it, this is just an automated system which does that for you.

Really I think the sponsors know this, and put their money on targetting the market of people who are, for example, watching while eating.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#176
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the developer of Cydia, an alternative to the App Store for jailbroken iOS devices, a software ecosystem which was filled with both modifications to existing clients and complete re-implementations of clients, and this is definitely the #1 mistake that new developers would make (much to my annoyance, as it just seems so OBVIOUS of a thing to not do, but people really are idiots): you need to be extremely careful…

Welp. Makes me wonder whether Hacker News or @dang will send a C&D for naming my browser extension "Refined Hacker News" :P. /s

You could explain in court that "Refined for Hacker News" just sounded stupid.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#177
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the developer of Cydia, an alternative to the App Store for jailbroken iOS devices, a software ecosystem which was filled with both modifications to existing clients and complete re-implementations of clients, and this is definitely the #1 mistake that new developers would make (much to my annoyance, as it just seems so OBVIOUS of a thing to not do, but people really are idiots): you need to be extremely careful…

Welp. Makes me wonder whether Hacker News or @dang will send a C&D for naming my browser extension "Refined Hacker News" :P. /s

Maybe. YC registered "Hacker News" as a trademark a few years ago.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#178
post #74

So they couldn't just redesign the logo/app to be dissimilar enough from YouTube? I really want to know what these "complications" are, this is the sketchiest way I've seen someone refuse to open source something. > The vanced team will "NEVER" make its source code public. Making the source code available on the internet can cause serious complications for us.

They basically decompiled youtube's apk, modify and and repackaging it as Vanced, so off course they can't release their "source code" because it's not theirs (except the modified parts).

Makes sense, that's basically asking for trouble.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#179

> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…

It seems unlikely to me as well. There has to be something more to it than that. Maybe they were threatened to be taken to court anyway if they said anything else about the cease and desist letter.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#180

> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…

NDA?

More likely just legal threats to say "this is the opening shot, but these are the cruise missiles we have aimed at your bank account and life in general". Lawyers don't care, they will destroy you and your loved ones (edit: obviously not physically but legally and financially) and sleep like a baby at night.
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