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An open source dehumidifier ? Haven’t there been umpteen attempts at this? I thought there’s not that much water in the air. The volume of air to move must be crazy. Maybe I should read TFA

As far as I know every "water from air" is literally a dehumidifier and is going to produce dirty water at 1000x the cost of just driving water anywhere on earth.

What makes you think the water that’s in the air you are currently breathing is “dirty”?

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Orchard on the coast is tricky. I don't know specifically where you're located, but on the Oregon coast the only fruit trees OSU says will grow are apple and cherry (and sometimes pear). I've had better luck going with native bushes where you don't need to worry as much about supplemental water: huckleberry, salal berry, salmonberry, blackberry if you can maintain them, etc. Work with the environment rather than try…

Yep! Those are all on my list. I'm hoping heavy woodchip mulching can get me enough water retention to keep trees happy (we certainly get plenty of water the other ~9 months of the year!), but some supplemental water during the hot dry summer would probably significantly expand species and variety options. Have a small well that should be able to help some... but looking at permaculture techniques (hugelkulture, swal…

> try to build a pond high up on the hill

This, or tanks (to cut down on evaporation).

Pretty common here on the BC coast for people to plumb the gutters of their house and outbuildings to tanks and then use that stored water in the summer for the garden or topping off wells.

If you have 9 months of rain/live in a temperate rainforest it's not likely conjuring water out of the air is worth the effort :)

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As far as I know every "water from air" is literally a dehumidifier and is going to produce dirty water at 1000x the cost of just driving water anywhere on earth.

What makes you think the water that’s in the air you are currently breathing is “dirty”?

All air we breathe has bacteria and molds and dehumidifiers are a perfect place for Bad Things to grow.

https://hvacguides101.com/is-dehumidifier-water-safe-to-drin...

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Thunderf00t is hit and miss. Some videos are scepticism, small mindedness, long pessimistic rant without substance and no debunking

Which debunking video was like that?

"Veritasium: BUSTED!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hyy1zRZPiQ This is his area of expertise and is a great "busting" video

Trash: "Elon Musk Invents UNDERGROUND Traffic Jam!" "Tesla Bot" No debunking. Small mindedness, pessimistic rant. Just says Elon will fail but not clear how he knows he will fail

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Also imagine if money spent on stock buybacks went somewhere productive. :/

If a company can't think of anything useful and cost-effective to spend their money on, giving that money back in the way that passes through the largest portion of it is the most productive thing they could do. Let the investors allocate their money efficiently, rather than buying a gold mine as a movie theatre company (as an example).

rather than buying a gold mine as a movie theatre

That's a pretty random example. Crypto? Maybe. But it's not like AMC is going to randomly get into the actual physical mining busin-- (hold on, it's 2022, lmgt just in case)

Yes, a perfectly good example.

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An open source dehumidifier ? Haven’t there been umpteen attempts at this? I thought there’s not that much water in the air. The volume of air to move must be crazy. Maybe I should read TFA

A cursory glance of TFA suggests that it probably is another dehumidifier. Depending on the environment it might yield a small amount of water, but certainly not the kind you would want to be drinking without treatment. I look forward to thunderf00t's video on it.

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People need DCs too, not just corporations.

Wait, what? What exactly is a data center by your definition? What individuals (that are entirely disconnected from corporations) need them? How many individuals have personal data centers of such a scale that they would need to produce liquid water on-site for their computing needs? I genuinely believe you’ve described an entirely theoretical person that doesn’t reside in this universe.

The comment said "people", not "individuals" or "a person".

And considering how highly technical something like a modern water treatment plant can be, data centers are already a major force behind some of our potable water.

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I can guess why it is not still active. It is extremely energy intensive to condense water out of the air.

Why would you care how energy intensive it is when it’s solar powered?

Go buy a 40 pint per day dehumidifier and then start sizing the solar power you will need to run it all day, and then make sure there is enough humidity in the air to actually get 40pints/day and make sure there is enough battery to make up for the days that aren’t sunny, and realize the people who need water generally don’t have that much water in the air, and then realize this is a pipe dream.

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Son: "Dad, I'm thirsty, when can I have another sip of water?"

Father: "Have patience my son, there's only 4 more ads until the next ounce will be generated, and we can usually skip one of them after a few seconds"

I know, it's a cheap shot since X could have just mothballed the research and wrapped it up in patents.

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