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Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by 5ESS »

agrippanux wrote: post #164
yakubin wrote: post #128

Every single element of design featured on this page looks terrible: the apps and websites visible in screenshots, the blog itself. The excessively rounded ages make me feel as if I was in a children's house, where everything was rounded so that children don't hurt themselves hitting their heads on corners, or even on a children's carousel. The text on the website isn't evenly centred inside the boxes (top padding is…

“The excessively rounded ages make me feel as if I was in a children's house, where everything was rounded so that children don't hurt themselves hitting their heads on corners, or even on a children's carousel.” This is exactly why I can’t use MacOS anymore. It’s a neon-pastel-candy-colored, everything-is-rounded, excessive white space UI nightmare for me.

Have fun missing out on M1. Mac OS Monterey looks fine to me especially on dark mode. What ui element you use often is neon pastel colored exactly besides the window controls and the loading cursor? (Which we’re almost always colorful)

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

frostwarrior wrote: post #139
karaterobot wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't heard nearly as many people wanting a return to maximalist 90s web design. People miss the time when a website wasn't a 3 megabyte download, and didn't pop up a newsletter signup form. They don't (as often) miss the web pages with 100 animated gifs on them, an over the top tiled background, blinking text, and so on. Many more people want the minimalism of a page that gets out of the way and shows you the co…

That's just rationality intertwined with nostalgia. I mean, I do acknowledge how messy 90s websites were. Overly bloated with GIFs and annoying MIDIs playing on the background. But they were full of personality. And it was also a time where getting into "the internet" was an exciting thing by itself. Only us, people who are "computer literate", complain about a 3mb download or 10mb javascript blob. Most people don't…

People care about things being slow, but our industry has done a fantastic job of covering up the fact that it constantly makes everything slower by convincing people they just need newer devices. It is sickening.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by deltarholamda »

api wrote: post #129
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to what millennials have experienced for a couple decades: Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations want based on little more than a stereotype or maybe the feedback from one young person they spoke to once.

That's not new. Gen-Xers got the same thing. Boomers got the same thing. Lazy stereotyping wasn't invented yesterday. I don't think this blog post means to stereotype all of gen-Z though. I think they're just using it as a foil to talk about the counter-trend to early-21st-century minimalism. That was in turn a counter-trend to late-1990s / early-2000s eclecticism like old Geocities.

>Gen-Xers got the same thing

GenX got ignored. The baton was passed from Boomers to Millennials. I guess we were all taking a bathroom break or something.

GenX UI, at least on the Web, was TABLE layouts with spacer GIFs dictated to us by Boomers who wanted brochures. Our crowning design achievement still lives on in WiFi router Web management tools and phpBB.

Yo, anybody going to the Phish concert? I need a ride.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by neilpanchal »

yakubin wrote: post #128

Every single element of design featured on this page looks terrible: the apps and websites visible in screenshots, the blog itself. The excessively rounded ages make me feel as if I was in a children's house, where everything was rounded so that children don't hurt themselves hitting their heads on corners, or even on a children's carousel. The text on the website isn't evenly centred inside the boxes (top padding is…

We think alike. I am building a UI framework that goes against the grain of basically all contemporary design. It will echo the Berkeley Graphics philosophy:

  Emergent over prescribed aesthetics.
  Expose state and inner workings.
  Dense, not sparse.
  Explicit is better than implicit.
  Regiment functionalism.
  Performance is design.
  Verbosity over opaqueness.
  Ignore design trends. Timeless and unfashionable.
  Flat, not hierarchical.
  Diametrically opposite of minimalism. As complex as it needs to be.
  Driven by specifications and datasheets.
  Beauty emerges automatically without deliberation.
  Do not infantilize users.
Humans can handle complexity. Especially, building UIs for technical people. McMasterCarr is being used by millions, yet it looks so unlike today's contemporary bloat: https://www.mcmaster.com/

If you're interested, sign up here: https://berkeleygraphics.com/newsletters/

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by _lqaf »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #113
user_7832 wrote: post #83

I am a little surprised to see no one question the author's description or assumption of "Gen Z". As someone presumably from Gen Z, I find both interfaces either bad or terrible. The partiful design is outright tacky and looks terrible (nothing homogeneous, questionable design choices etc) but Filteroff has so much whitespace it feels like it was designed by soulless corps at Uber or Facebook who just studied from Pi…

Welcome to what millennials have experienced for a couple decades: Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations want based on little more than a stereotype or maybe the feedback from one young person they spoke to once.

Millennials are spoiled by the attention. The Committee for Generational Distinctions is still trying to erase the existence of GenXers.

But it all gets better in your 40s. That's when you and your peers start to have enough power and money to be catered to. And when the 20-somethings start bitching about you.

> Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations

This is frequently called 'society'. Keep breathing long enough, you'll find yourself on the other side of that behavior.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

daveslash wrote: post #155
dugmartin wrote: post #31

At age 50 now, I'd prefer a Gen X mode where the font size is 125% and the text is high contrast.

Yeah, I wonder if these trends the author is picking up on (i.e. "Millennial Boring on Purpose" and "Millennial Minimalism" vs the Gen-Z "Excitement" and sparkles) is more of an actual age thing vs. a generational thing ? I'm still in my 30s, and I prefer the Millennial Minimalism now, but I didn't always. And I find myself bumping up the font size to 125% once in a while - and I expect to be doing it more and more a…

Yea, from what I remember of the leading edge Gen Y/ trailing Gen X culture in early 00s it was similarly fucken crazy and eclectic.

Cat photos with cut out style animation playing guitars. The whole electroclash thing. Just watch the music video for The Knife’s heartbeats.

I associate the sterile corpo chic with 2015 onwards because in my young adult days (2011-2014) we were wearing Aztec print stuff, ripped 501 jeans and iridescent shell jackets with fresh prince colour vomit snap backs, bright plastic sunglasses and abusing psychedelic amphetamines like it was 1988

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by pier25 »

I don't know if it's related, but there seems to be a trend these past years of ugly design taking over...

The first company I remember was Dropbox but they seem to have backpedalled on that when looking at their current homepage.

Gumroad or Xolo recently updated their websites and are perfect examples of what I'm talking about:

https://gumroad.com/

https://www.xolo.io/

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by 0xffff2 »

graderjs wrote: post #138

Gerald took off his glasses and rubbed them a little on the tablecloth. He was bewildered. How could this be, he kept thinking to himself. No--how, literally, could this be? He couldn't have known it, but at that very moment, the same conversation, and the same bewilderment, was being had, in offices over lunch hours, around dinner tables in startup work condos, all across America. Something had shifted. In later yea…

The formatting in italics makes this seem like a quote, but I can't find a source. Is this a quote from a larger work?
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