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Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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For me, more than visual cruft (although I would argue there is more of that than before) - it's interaction cruft. Big annoyances for me: 1. Auto suggesting and searching for words I didn't mean - common with technical phrases 2. Ignoring "quoted terms" and searching for them as an AND instead 3. Auto refreshing the results page as I modify my terms - it makes the experience slower, and I don't need to see results f…

I can't scroll the page with the up/down arrows. It don't get why no one mentions this. Sometimes I'm afraid they're targeting just me. Is it really the right trade-off to steal the arrow key to scroll the results with a cursor? Who uses that feature? Leave my arrows alone.

Yes yes yes yes yes.

(I know me-too comments are generally frowned on, and quite right too, but we have a senior Googler reading this thread and comment scores are invisible now...)

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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I'm just speaking personally, but I'm on the side of most of the folks here. A senior engineer is looking into the ["society of spectacles"] search now, for example. What would be most helpful would be constructive examples of bad queries, bad experiences, or concrete proposals for how to improve Google's results page or results UI.

Is it concrete enough that getting to the cache is now a series of 3 actions: 1) Hover over result 2) Move mouse to hover over double-arrow (careful don't miss it or you go back to step 1) 3) Click on Cache link Whereas before it was just: 1) Click on cache link. Not to mention the accessibility issues, which I'm asking an expert in the field about now to see how it affects screen readers.

I would think this would break most screen readers, as you have to perform a click to get the cache link. If a screen reader didn't understand js, however, then the cache link may still be in the html (but not if it is loaded via javascript).

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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I really dislike services like that. Searches cost real money to Google, using them through that is almost stealing, in my opinion. Just use a different search engine. EDIT: I'd like if someone would reply if they disagree. Do you dispute that each search costs money to Google, or what?

I feel no guilt. Google's main revenue stream is advertisements, which I will never click on. Yet, I still use Google continuously. Does that mean I'm stealing? Either way I'm getting something for free and not contributing to their revenue.

You're contributing data to them

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Thank you!

Actually, something else that bothers me, but I'm not sure there's much you can do about it. I really like the Chrome location-bar search completion thing. Most of the time, when I start searching something, I can see if my search terms are good by seeing whether it's been searched before. If it comes up with nothing, I know my search terms are probably not well-worded. Not sure how you could provide for that, though…

Thx, duly noted. We are working on a suggestions feature though not sure it will address this particular issue.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Only if Google can’t find anything – which makes a lot of sense. For me it doesn't, and it violates the Law of Demeter. If there are no results, tell me. Don't make me waste time wondering if any of the results have what I'm looking for, since there is no indication that the results I'm receiving are ancillary. Treating your users like they're idiots is evil.

There usually is a very clear indication right at the top of the page, informing you that the search yielded no results and that it is showing results for a different search.

Here's a good example of "Hey Google WTF?"

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#3...

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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I'm just speaking personally, but I'm on the side of most of the folks here. A senior engineer is looking into the ["society of spectacles"] search now, for example. What would be most helpful would be constructive examples of bad queries, bad experiences, or concrete proposals for how to improve Google's results page or results UI.

Is it concrete enough that getting to the cache is now a series of 3 actions: 1) Hover over result 2) Move mouse to hover over double-arrow (careful don't miss it or you go back to step 1) 3) Click on Cache link Whereas before it was just: 1) Click on cache link. Not to mention the accessibility issues, which I'm asking an expert in the field about now to see how it affects screen readers.

and if you disabled javascript, it can't be accessed at all.
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