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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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I keep hoping Microsoft will go one step too far and everyone will be forced to switch. Hasn't happened yet.

Linux really doesn't have good alternatives for most of the tools I use, and none of it runs in Wine and similar, so I hope not.

It’s hard to beat windows native office. MacOS version stinks and the web version is pretty slow on complicated stuff. That’s why I use windows on my work PC ans WSL for the dev stuff.

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Might be a good time to take some affordable evening classes at your local community college wink wink nudge nudge

I don't think microsoft ever gave away LTSC licenses for students. Education/Enterprise maybe, but not LTSC.

They definitely did at one point, I still have a LTSC key from before my school decided to be too lazy to renew Azure Dev Tools for Teaching (Imagine). IIRC the keys were per edition, so a 2016 key wouldn't apply to the newest LTSC release.

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Logging in with a MS account automatically uploads your documents to their cloud? Cool…

I doubt it, considering that Microsoft only gives you 5GB of storage for free. Anyone with non-trivial amounts of documents will quickly blow through this. What the parent poster is talking about is probably the onedrive folder, which probably gets automatically set up when you sign in with your microsoft account.

They have some dirty tricks they use to “convince” users to put all their files in OneDrive. The main one is making it seem like a backup or something the user forgot to set up (“protect your files”), so a lot of users fall for it.

Files on demand is a way to make people dependent and the low quota is to get them onto a subscription.

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Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is a good Premiere replacement and can replace parts of AE. It runs well on Linux. Pixelmator on macOS is a good Photoshop replacement. I got nothing for Lightroom or heavier uses of AE. Or Excel.

Also missing is support for Pro Audio such as Nuendo and Dorico. If these would run on FreeBSD I would've swapped from OSX/Win years ago. At least there's some hope for Proton so gaming could work...

Reaper might run on FreeBSD with Linux binary support. It has a notation editor, so it might work as a Dorico replacement depending on your needs.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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So how would that work for people who only work in offline networks?

Click "Setup for Work or School", then click "Domain Join instead". Since they don't want to figure out a way to expose DNS settings in OOBE (that you might need to discover a domain controller), they just ask you to set up a local administrator account and assume you'll complete the join at the desktop.

This is how I've always setup 10 and 11 Pro, I never knew about the whole unplug the ethernet method. I knew that was required for Home, but not Pro.

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Logging in with a MS account automatically uploads your documents to their cloud? Cool…

I doubt it, considering that Microsoft only gives you 5GB of storage for free. Anyone with non-trivial amounts of documents will quickly blow through this. What the parent poster is talking about is probably the onedrive folder, which probably gets automatically set up when you sign in with your microsoft account.

And everything defaults to saving files in that folder. Saving locally is made intentionally difficult, and the setting is regularly reset to one drive after updates.

So yeah, Microsoft basically saves all your documents to the cloud, even after trying very hard to disable that possibility.

Windows 11 is the proverbial straw for my camel. It's hostile and aggressive, and I don't need to fight with my computer.

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Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for. For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sy…

I am convinced Power Users are not the target market for Windows 11 (or maybe even windows). I mistakenly updated to it and have regretted it. Did you know they turned off animations when using Virtual Desktops [1]? A power-user feature on all the other OS' that took Microsoft till 2019 to adopt was crippled in little over 2 years after release. [1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/report-an-issue/windo...

Color me confused. Why would I ever want animations when I change virtual desktops? I know what keys I pressed. I pressed them for a reason. The animation just gets in the way.

In general, animations don't seem like a "power user" feature at all. Animations hint at new users ("hey, where did that window go when I minimized it") but aren't useful once you understand the abstraction.

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This is how I wound up becoming so annoyed that I finally switched to Linux. It’s been great. I haven’t even missed out on gaming.

I keep hoping Microsoft will go one step too far and everyone will be forced to switch. Hasn't happened yet.

Frog boiling is an art.

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“The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added to Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won’t be able to avoid Microsoft Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.” If I remember correctly, when you install Win11 Home, it forces you to login with a Microsoft account. But the easy workaround is to unplug the ethernet cable, windows will realize it can’t connect and the local ac…

There are so many (and so simple) workarounds that it almost feels intentional. My favourite one is typing "a@a.com" as email, literally anything as password, and this will throw an error and viola, prompt you to create a local account. Been using this in the latest Windows 11 Dev builds, no MSA required. Even Microsoft Store works without MSA!
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