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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by mrhands556 »

BizarroLand wrote: post #166
mrhands556 wrote: post #149

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There was a video of them kicking out some dude with a confederate flag. I’ve only seen the Nazi flag in a couple pictures and seemed like it was never in the middle of the rally. Source: https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confro... If you’re trying to discredit a group of people it’s pretty low hanging fruit to send people in with a Nazi flag for great photo ops to show the masses.

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I haven’t seen any Nazi flags in the crowd but I haven’t been following it closely.

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Post by SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW »

BizarroLand wrote: post #170
SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW wrote: post #160

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who said they were in the group? if you keep seeing nazis everywhere than maybe you're the one with the problem?

If I see Nazi flags and Swastikas being waved proudly, and I say, "Man, I can't believe there are Nazis over there, I thought we first world countries absolutely hated Nazis!", why would that be a me problem?

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Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by Manuel_D »

BizarroLand wrote: post #135
ipaddr wrote: post #30

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You realize that without that pipeline they ship it by truck which is much worse for the environment. Without demand it wouldn't be sold to the US.

Yeah, but general damage to the environment is better than destroying a specific group of people's homeland. Oil pipelines leak frequently. An oil leak in some tribal lands could poison the water and make the tribal lands unlivable for years. Why is that less of a concern than the environment as a whole? It's no more right to justify that than it would be to justify putting all of the country's debt on a single perso…

Oil pipelines on average leak less than truck and rail transport for the same volume of oil [1].

1. https://pstrust.org/rail-vs-pipelines

Re: GoFundMe pauses donations to Canada truckers

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Post by BizarroLand »

ipaddr wrote: post #153
BizarroLand wrote: post #133

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If you're a member of a group and that group pulls out a Nazi flag, do you leave the group or do you expect random passers-by to think for a moment that maybe you aren't a Nazi sympathizer? "Oh, everyone knows ipaddr! He hangs out with a bunch of Nazis that protest to entrench "born white" as the de facto ruling class of the country, kill all the gays and trans people, and to have two separate sets of laws, one that…

I wouldn't assume someone carrying a Nazi flag means all of those things. I wouldn't assume everyone was gay or supported gay rights if someone held a rainbow flag. I might assume the person holding the flag has support for the flag but it's not necessarily true. If the Nazi flag had Justin Trudeau's face on it I would instantly get the message that Trudeau is a Nazi not support for a group from a foreign country in…

Lot of people working in overdrive to excuse displays of Nazi symbolism these days. Never would have thought I would see it on y-combinator but here we are.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

_-david-_ wrote: post #137
BizarroLand wrote: post #128

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What if you don't see the swastika? Should you be branded a Nazi? What happens if there is a good cause that you support and a random person comes with a Nazi flag? Should all the people leave? Protesting would effectively never be able to happen.

It's not "random people". The convoy has white supremacists in leadership positions.

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Post by BizarroLand »

SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW wrote: post #172
BizarroLand wrote: post #170

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If I see Nazi flags and Swastikas being waved proudly, and I say, "Man, I can't believe there are Nazis over there, I thought we first world countries absolutely hated Nazis!", why would that be a me problem?

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Post by jonwithoutanh »

screye wrote: post #145
bryanlarsen wrote: post #131

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> So every protest that has ever happened ? Ottawa, being the capital, gets two types of protests. The legal ones who get a permit have their route planned out in advance, and the police shut down the streets while the protest occurs. It's sort of like a parade. It's inconvenient and annoying, but no single street gets shut down for more than a couple of hours. And it's not just the agreeable protests that get permit…

> stand on the sidewalk with a sign > legal ones who get a permit have their route planned out in advance So the kind of protests that don't matter ? A protest, by definition, is meant to display discontent from the masses because conventional means have failed. If a protest does not hit where it hurts, it isn't an effective protest. If shouting loudly worked, then twitter outrage would have been sufficient for press…

This is all fine and dandy but these people aren't protesting the correct part of the government that has authority to enact the changes they want. That is, if we are talking about mask, and vaccine mandates. They need to protest their provincial governments for those changes.

The Federal demands they have are for our democratic government to resign and instill a dictatorship made up of people of their choosing...

Why the fuck should anyone listen to these people?

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