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Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by rcthompson »

yencabulator wrote: post #146
rcthompson wrote: post #114

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Yes, at least from what I've experienced, you can have "resume in 2 seconds" or "sleep for a week" but not both. (S0ix and S3 respectively) To be fair, I don't think this is Framework's fault. My understanding is that this is a limitation of the current generation of Intel CPUs, so pretty much any current-gen Intel-based computer will have the same issue.

> you can have "resume in 2 seconds" or "sleep for a week" but not both. (S0ix and S3 respectively) The way Windows laptops do this is to go from light sleep to deep sleep after being idle for a long period. You should be able to pull off the same trick in Linux.

I would actually greatly appreciate such a feature. Essentially hybrid sleep except that the two types of sleep are different kinds of low power states instead of suspend to RAM and disk.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by torginus »

pbronez wrote: post #169
torginus wrote: post #139

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I'm not an expert on washing machine-ology, so sorry if I sound like a smartass, but a quick google search confirmed my suspicions - lower end washing machines tend to use the same PCBs, a telltale sign being that the controls/displays tend to be in the same place. To be honest, even if you can't find a PCB replacement, a faulty PCB can be fixed by inspecting the components and/or replacing them. Usually it costs onl…

> a faulty PCB can be fixed by inspecting the components and/or replacing them. Usually it costs only a couple of dollars and an hour of soldering time, less if you are good at it. That's a pretty steep DIY requirement. Wonder how robust the market is for these kinds of repair skills. Hard to know when you have a problem like this, who to call about it, and how much it'll cost to fix.

I mean yeah. But hunting down a skilled repairman as you said, or browsing for a new machine that fits in the exact same place as the old one, and then wrestling with that hulking beast is no easy task either.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by BaseballPhysics »

nafizh wrote: post #159
BaseballPhysics wrote: post #134

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Yes. This is why I switched to simply hibernating, which has worked flawlessly for me. The shutdown and startup times are obviously a bit longer (it takes 10 seconds to get to the bootloader, after which its about 12 seconds to wake up), but since it's truly off, it can remain asleep indefinitely.

Do you have a link to a community thread or any other link on how to implement the hibernation? Right now, anytime I am closing the lid, the battery is draining out.

I just used the Arch wiki for basic setup:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management/Suspend_an...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management#Suspend_an...

I have my machine set to suspend on lid close and hibernate on power button.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by bhelkey »

globalise83 wrote: post #154
aidenn0 wrote: post #143

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I suppose that's a disadvantage peculiar to manufacturers targeting reduced waste: their customers aren't going to upgrade as often...

As someone whose first task on buying a new laptop every ten years is to install the latest Ubuntu LTS version, a company which makes machines that work perfectly with Ubuntu and have a life of around 10 years will have me as a customer for life.

If you are a 38 year old man, actuarial tables suggest that this translates to 4 more laptops over 40 years[1]. I believe their point is that this does not make you a particularly valuable customer.

I would argue that there is value in a brand that consumers trust to last for a long time. For example, if Framework launched a printer, you might be tempted to pay a premium for a product you knew was high quality and repairable.

[1] https://www.annuityadvantage.com/resources/life-expectancy-t...

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by sudosysgen »

rpdillon wrote: post #118
durovo wrote: post #77

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"I can't reliably click-and-drag using a singe hand" --- Does a single-finger double tap and drag not work?

Once I learned this gesture, dragging with the touchpad went from "horribly frustrating" to "so easy I can do it without thinking". Would be curious if/how it doesn't work for some folks.

Exactly the same story here.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by zmk5 »

sudosysgen wrote: post #161

The Frameworks are really good. However, the chips inside are disappointing, IMO. I was considering the i5 1135g7 Framework with 16gb of RAM. A friend of mine bought it, and it's idle power draw is of 8-9W with Gnome 3 and Firefox open. I decided to get a laptop with a 5800H and an RTX 3070 instead. My power consumption as I'm typing this comment right now is of 7W with a dozen tabs and an IDE, messaging, etc... open…

Yeah I'm really hopeful there will be a move to more power efficient chips in them. I love this laptop but the battery life from this chipset is a real downer.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by galbar »

mikece wrote: post #129
abrowne wrote: post #126

> this funding unlocks categories even more ambitious than our first one. Any guesses? I'd love to buy a Framework phone — if they can guarantee Android updates.

I would love a Framework phone with the option to have Graphene OS pre-installed.

what about fairphone?

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by pkulak »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #148
pkulak wrote: post #110

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I'm still waiting on a display that will 2x nicely. Fractional scaling on Linux is not my idea of a good time. It's crazy, because they only need to add a couple hundred lines of resolution and it would be perfect.

>It's crazy, because they only need to add a couple hundred lines of resolution and it would be perfect. To be fair, it's not Framework's fault that fractional scaling in Linux is not great.

True. But I also feel like 2x is inherently better than 1.7x. I'm not a graphics expert, but there's gotta be a reason Apple has stuck to 2x at all costs with every machine they've made for the last 8 years.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by pjerem »

pkulak wrote: post #178
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #148

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>It's crazy, because they only need to add a couple hundred lines of resolution and it would be perfect. To be fair, it's not Framework's fault that fractional scaling in Linux is not great.

True. But I also feel like 2x is inherently better than 1.7x. I'm not a graphics expert, but there's gotta be a reason Apple has stuck to 2x at all costs with every machine they've made for the last 8 years.

I’m not sure of what you meant but Apple supports fractional scaling since Retina screens appeared a decade ago. And it supports it really well. It’s absolutely not stuck at 2x.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Post by gorjusborg »

sudosysgen wrote: post #161

The Frameworks are really good. However, the chips inside are disappointing, IMO. I was considering the i5 1135g7 Framework with 16gb of RAM. A friend of mine bought it, and it's idle power draw is of 8-9W with Gnome 3 and Firefox open. I decided to get a laptop with a 5800H and an RTX 3070 instead. My power consumption as I'm typing this comment right now is of 7W with a dozen tabs and an IDE, messaging, etc... open…

My hope is that they release an ARM mainboard, so I can swap it in. For now though, I'd rather buy from them than the fruit company.
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