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Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by goodpoint »

input_sh wrote: post #106
cyfex wrote: post #102

I always found the hurdle with self-hosting to be maintaining, not the initial setup. Things like upgrading, in order to keep getting security fixes, and verifying everything works after the upgrade, are what has taken the most effort and time in the past for me. This looks like a great setup by the author, but difficult to maintain in the long run without significant time investment.

Docker and docker-compose make maintaining stuff dead simple to me. In like 95% of the cases it's just a matter of changing the version in a YAML file and running one command, and in the remaining 5% of the time I'm not concerned at all with some downtime because I'm (mostly) the only user.

Containers are not good for security updates.

docker also adds a big attack surface.

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by yebyen »

AdrianoKF wrote: post #156

I recently wanted to give my current RPi4 home server a GitOps makeover, migrating services (Home Assistant, Nextcloud and others) to k3s in the process. What has been an obstacle is the availability of officially maintained Docker images for some of the components I've been wanting to use - afaict neither Argo CD nor Rook have official armv7/aarch64 images (though it seems Argo will release one soon). Until then, I'…

FWIW, FluxCD has full armv7 and aarch64 support (it definitely works on a Raspberry Pi 4, the earlier models with 1GB of RAM too, although depending on the size of your git repos that may not be enough memory, 4GB-8GB certainly is for Flux.)

How many Rpi4 servers are we talking? I have never run Rook before (though I ran Ceph, when it was called deis-store way back before it was cool) and I always remember that you needed at least 3-5 servers with at least one dedicated disk for OSD per each to make it work well, if at all!

I'm looking at synology-csi right now for my homelab, and wondering if there is hope that I can stop using local-path-storage this way, it looks a little bit outdated, so I'm afraid that may keep me from running the latest version of Kubernetes on it... unless I hack the support into it myself :gasp: surely that's gonna void the warranty

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by egberts1 »

chaxor wrote: post #165
simonw wrote: post #2

This is very cool! Have you considered something like Tailscale so you can securely access it from outside your home? I've been thinking about spinning up my own home server that way, seeing as Tailscale makes it easy to securely access it from my phone when I'm out and about.

Isn't headscale a clearly better option, since it removes the need to trust and depend on external sources? It the same software essentially, but if we're talking about self hosting, headscale is just inherently better, since it actually is self hosted.

¡Dos Mios! 129 Go dependencies just for a Headscale control server?!

I think I will wait until a C variant appears after they've settled.

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by sgt »

ryandrake wrote: post #170
marginalia_nu wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My "homelab" is just debian stable, with a moratorium against containerization. Systemd keeps the services going. Updates are manual. It's a bit incredible how clean and easy such a set-up can be. Like there's almost nothing to say. It's extremely reliable and just keeps ticking. I actually did use to have a bunch of virtualization and kubernetes and crap, but got rid of it because it ate literally half the systems'…

Yea I think I missed the whole web-complexity bus and am probably out of touch, but I still don’t get the use case for docker and containers and kubernets and and orchestration and all that stuff, just for a simple home setup. I serve a tiny web site, email, backups, a NAS and a few other internet services for my family, and my “stack” is vanilla Debian Stable. Maybe I don’t know what I don’t know, but my setup works…

It doesn't make sense, but often people who set up K8s at home do it for educational reasons or just having a playground so they are more capable at administering systems like that at work.

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by nicbou »

khuedoan wrote: post #47

Repo owner here, I just created this account, I'm a long time HN lurker. I was surprised to find this on Hacker News, I wanted to wait until the stable release before posting on HN, but thank you for posting :) This project is still in alpha stage, but please feel free to critique; I'd appreciate it. Edit 1: After reading some of the comments, I want to clarify a few things: - Because it is currently in the alpha sta…

This is a beautiful writeup. I find these posts really interesting to read. Thanks for sharing!

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by iso1210 »

sgt wrote: post #174
ryandrake wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea I think I missed the whole web-complexity bus and am probably out of touch, but I still don’t get the use case for docker and containers and kubernets and and orchestration and all that stuff, just for a simple home setup. I serve a tiny web site, email, backups, a NAS and a few other internet services for my family, and my “stack” is vanilla Debian Stable. Maybe I don’t know what I don’t know, but my setup works…

It doesn't make sense, but often people who set up K8s at home do it for educational reasons or just having a playground so they are more capable at administering systems like that at work.

Sure, using K8S in your learning envornment because you're managing 800 different services in your dayjob is fine. Personally I have my learning environment as part of my day job though.

At home I just want things to work, hence a nice simple LAMP

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

ryandrake wrote: post #170
marginalia_nu wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My "homelab" is just debian stable, with a moratorium against containerization. Systemd keeps the services going. Updates are manual. It's a bit incredible how clean and easy such a set-up can be. Like there's almost nothing to say. It's extremely reliable and just keeps ticking. I actually did use to have a bunch of virtualization and kubernetes and crap, but got rid of it because it ate literally half the systems'…

Yea I think I missed the whole web-complexity bus and am probably out of touch, but I still don’t get the use case for docker and containers and kubernets and and orchestration and all that stuff, just for a simple home setup. I serve a tiny web site, email, backups, a NAS and a few other internet services for my family, and my “stack” is vanilla Debian Stable. Maybe I don’t know what I don’t know, but my setup works…

"This is just another "how I installed kubernetes" thing only without any real scale behind it."

It is just a learning project, for me K8S didn't 'click' untill i tried to configure it myself on a few machines.

There is something about doing it om physical real things that aids learning, like you could read all chemistry textbooks in the world but untill you actually try it yourself it's not quite the same

I think it's important to keep you 'precious files/services' and you experiments separate.

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by spaniard89277 »

goodpoint wrote: post #13

Deploying services is 1% of the work. Maintaining them, fixing bugs and bottlenecks is the real works. And you cannot do when you deploy tools worth millions of lines of code. Complexity matters. Those popular products make sense only if you have a 20 engineers is your team or you don't care about reliability.

Maybe they want to practice. I installed proxmox and I'm pretty much set up, but my needs are pretty huble, just a couple of VMs and maybe containers in the near future.

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by Macha »

hobofan wrote: post #158
Orou wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any major benefits to using Tailscale over vanilla Wireguard?

UX. Compare the quick start of Wireguard[0] and Tailscale[1]. [0]: https://tailscale.com/kb/1017/install/ [1]: https://www.wireguard.com/quickstart/

In their benefits:

> Host a private server for you and your peers. Use it to play Minecraft together or chat together on Discord.

I don't think the documentation writer knows how discord works. There's no private/self-hosted option

Re: My self-hosting infrastructure, fully automated

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Post by Pufferbo »

LilBytes wrote: post #20
616c wrote: post #10

Pretty sweet. I have been called a devops person by others around me (and I am hesitant to proudly identify as one) because this homelab is more impressive and modular than a lot of stuff I have seen colleagues and I put together for professional stuff. Well done. I was not aware of the Cloudflare solution. Is this something someone can use, _with_ their Cloudflare Access offering, for personal dev/lab envs without b…

I set up Tailscale a little over a week ago, it boggled my mind how easy it was. I'm using it for personal use at the moment and I'm considering changing to a paid user to my friends and family can access Emby over the internet. I did have a few dramas getting in to work for my LxC environments but nothing a quick Google resolved for me.

Why not use something like ZeroTier? I’ve seen a lot of people talking about Tailscale; I’ve been using ZeroTier to connect to my local NextCloud and it works great.
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