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Amazon has already started doing their own shipping. Maybe they'll hire their own mercenaries to guard the shipments too. Eventually they'll replace the government. United States of Amazon. We won't even have to change all our monogrammed stuff.

It will all be Brawndo soon. Prophet Judge foretold it.

Idiocracy was not meant to be a documentary.

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> everyone should have the right to protect themselves and their property. To be clear, this is a political ideal of the Roman Empire that has influenced much of modern civlisation, it's not an inevitable state of humanity.

The right to protect oneself and one’s property goes at least as far back as the Code of Hammurabi. Every ancient civilization from Babylon to Tenochtitlan had some variation of this idea. It is practically the definition of civilization itself.

The idea that an individual has "[the] right to protect oneself and one’s property" is fundamentally inconsistent with the existence of slavery throughout most of humanity's history.

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That's one of the main reasons why driverless lorries will never be a thing. Unless you accompany each one of them by a weaponised mini-drone, Robocop-style, that is.

*in America. Not a reason why they shouldn’t work in Japan, Switzerland, Norway…

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The right to protect oneself and one’s property goes at least as far back as the Code of Hammurabi. Every ancient civilization from Babylon to Tenochtitlan had some variation of this idea. It is practically the definition of civilization itself.

The idea that an individual has "[the] right to protect oneself and one’s property" is fundamentally inconsistent with the existence of slavery throughout most of humanity's history.

Obviously, but that isn’t what the GP comment asserted and it isn’t the statement I replied to.

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You'll have to be more specific than "EU" because I've never seen an American-style SUV in Western Europe. Closest I can get is a crossover SUV like a Mercedes GLA.

> I've never seen an American-style SUV in Western Europe I was actually thinking about these SUVs this morning, as their were two Cadillac Escalades [0] parked on my block in central Stockholm as I walked my kid to school. The town is *full* of these types of vehicles (there are even full-size Hummers driving around). The "EU" can't be characterized in this uniform way - the different countries are totally unlike ea…

What I've noticed in the UK is that large SUVs are far more common in wealthy areas of cities than they are in rural areas.

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Amazon has already started doing their own shipping. Maybe they'll hire their own mercenaries to guard the shipments too. Eventually they'll replace the government. United States of Amazon. We won't even have to change all our monogrammed stuff.

if they do it the way they did AWS it'll be amazing

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I agree with what you’re observing, but I’d attach slightly different terms to it: I think what we seeing is the failure of the ‘American dream’ (roughly, equality of opportunity combined with self-sufficiency) and the failure of American society and the overall system to compensate.

Inasmuch as any political system can be seen as an experiment, the American experiment is failing badly - and given the ingrained political culture and expectations of most of America (noting that typical Democrat policy is verging on right-wing when judged by most standards) it’s not clear how they’ll be able to find a solution.

The result is rampant and widening inequality, and growing extremism within politics and without. I’m genuinely concerned that the scene is set for a really extreme leader (consider Trump as a modest and thankfully ineffective trial run for what might be) and/or a class war.

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My observation from the comment sections to this post-apocalyptic video is the following: People focusing on how to prevent the theft of these cars, funding police, armed guards on trans, better security. I think this is an interesting perspective, it's very "American", it's like it has been accepted by these commenters that rampant thievery is a perfectly natural part of life and so, must be worked around rather tha…

The same thing has been happening in SF with homelessness. A lot of people think they should go to prison or be displaced somewhere else. It’s like refusing to accept that there’s a root cause.

Arguably SF’s lack of police response enables continued drug abuse and homelessness.

See: https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2021/rescuing-jessica-s...

This person has no interest in treatment. They want to do drugs and take advantage of what’s provided to keep doing that.

You can’t fix that with hotels. You either need to require treatment or imprison (paired with arresting dealers).

On the more progressive end, maybe drug clinics that administer drugs to addicts for free onsite (to crash the dealer market while you’re going after them). Eventually you have to force a choice. The do drugs openly while living in a tent on the street can’t be an option.

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The same thing has been happening in SF with homelessness. A lot of people think they should go to prison or be displaced somewhere else. It’s like refusing to accept that there’s a root cause.

If you're like some of my older relatives, people choose to become "beggars" because they "want something for nothing" and would rather do that than work a job and live in stable accommodation.

In Austin Texas when they legalized urban camping the short term effect was the homeless shelters and transitional housing programs cleared out in favor of camping in the posh downtown parks. There was a sudden increase in young rastafarian looking white kids living on the streets. When the ban was reinstated all those newcomers just melted away to wherever they came from.

Didn't seem like that bad of a life while it lasted, being in the tourist areas crime was never bad enough to be afraid for your safety, you had bleeding heart church groups that would regularly come by the camps to hand out food and clothing. All the while you can sell and doing drugs in the open.

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