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They still advertise it on their own website https://on.google.com/hub/?main=retail , so they expect it to be still selling.
From that page: > OnHub’s software includes advanced and always-evolving security features that update automatically to help protect your network, your data, and all your devices. LOL
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Why is it due to be replaced? Has your bandwidth speed substantially improved to the point that OnHub can no longer keep up? Because otherwise it sounds like you're happy with where you're at. There's no reason to replace a well-functioning device that does everything you need just because it's reached the end of the ever-shortening consumer electronics lifecycle. My own router is about ~7 years old, I have twice the…
WiFi isn’t that simple: every generation makes substantial improvements in things like how they handle contention with multiple clients or interference. Since most of us have more than one device active these days, that is noticeable — especially if you have devices which also talk to each other rather than exclusively over the internet. When I replaced my 2016 OnHub + Google WiFi mesh with an Eero WiFi 6 system, I s…
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Speaking of BS > Since OnHub routers were introduced 6 years ago, a lot has changed. In 2022, support for these older devices will end. Given the devices were over spec'ed to allow for future expansion I highly doubt they're outdated already.
Reminds me of my Nexus Q: An extremely high quality, overspecced device, that Google deleted in order to replace the functionality with Chromecast, a drastically weaker, much poorer quality product. But hey, it sold better.
The team was "android at home" and the year was 2012. This was google's first effort at home automation, and besides $60 lightbulbs you could turn off wirelessly that nobody at the time needed, we had the Q. The main focus for Q was audio. Fancy, high quality audio. It had a very nice amp. It even had very fancy hardware to allow synchronized audio playback without software resampling (an oscillator we could change the frequency of to pull it to master's freq). There was a second device in the works - a cheaper one, since Q was not at all cheap to make. We had a huge TV in our area of the building. And one day, on said TV, we saw the announcement of chromecast. By google. This was the first any of us heard of it. It did 90% of what our device did, but we were targeting $xxx and it was $15... At this point in time, the android and the non-android parts of google did not communicate much, and kept many secrets from each other. I doubt the folks in the chrome team even knew of our project. At google IO we took preorders for the Q, but given this new "chromecast" thing, it made no sense to continue, so everyone who pre-ordered one got one for free, and no support was ever provided, nor were any updates. In theory, the android bits for it are published and you can build android for it just fine.
Looks like some interesting hardware for ~$60 at the bookstore. Generous RAM and flash, bluetooth and zigbee. Sibling comment has the root instructions. https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/32...
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WiFi isn’t that simple: every generation makes substantial improvements in things like how they handle contention with multiple clients or interference. Since most of us have more than one device active these days, that is noticeable — especially if you have devices which also talk to each other rather than exclusively over the internet. When I replaced my 2016 OnHub + Google WiFi mesh with an Eero WiFi 6 system, I s…
Did you notice those improvements or did you just do benchmarks to see if they improved? Not everyone's needs are the same of course, but I have no complaints about my seven year old Nighthawk R7000. Latency-sensitive devices like game consoles are ethernet, phones and laptops are 5GHz, and everything else is 2.4GHz.
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Is five years enough? For you maybe. I think it is nothing like enough. My guitar amplifier is about twenty years old. My house is thirty and will probably make it to 300 (climate catastrophes wiling) I do not buy Google products, if I did I would stop.
Well, electric guitars have been around for over 80 years and houses even longer. This whole wireless internet thing is pretty recent and is getting increasingly better every year.
As long as I can work, play 2 concurrent movies while having videocalls at the same time, I don't see the point upgrading just for the sake of upgrading. Unless the security of my devices is at risk.
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>and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever Do people actually need next-gen wifi? My impression is that 99.9+% of people would be well served by a mid-range 802.11ac router (eg. AC1750[1]) from years ago, because the most bandwidth intensive thing they do is watch 4k netflix (~25 Mb/s). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac-2013
is Bandwidth the only factor? What about 30-50 smart home devices? Every bulb or switch, water sensors, etc. Some of modern equipment is load balancing old legacy stuff better, no?
My home is completely analog, like I even have to operate my windows blinds manually. I have lived in a totally connected and electrified house and I didn't view any improvement in my quality of life. Only downsides when the power grid had an issue.
Btw Onhub does not even have a browser accessible interface like every router has. The only way to manage it is through the app (that they will decommission). Reviewers and experts called this out at the time, but Google reassured that onhub will not face any issues since they will commit to long term support of the device. As a testament to that they highlighted the overspecification of the device (it had enormous r…
No non-disposable hardware should ever depend on a phone app, lest it become equally disposable.
All my electronics and computers from the 80s and 90s run just fine today! In great part because they don't depend on anything.
Electronics from the 2020s are unlikely to be usable in the 2060s simply due to unnecessary dependencies, even if the hardware itself is totally fine. Don't buy things like that.
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is Bandwidth the only factor? What about 30-50 smart home devices? Every bulb or switch, water sensors, etc. Some of modern equipment is load balancing old legacy stuff better, no?
Why would you want to cram 50 so called "smart" devices is the real question. Is your quality of life improved by having your lightbulbs and switch connected to the internet. Why do you need sensors at all? My home is completely analog, like I even have to operate my windows blinds manually. I have lived in a totally connected and electrified house and I didn't view any improvement in my quality of life. Only downsid…
PM 2.5 may be in the range of a couple micrograms/m³ in one room (with air purification) and 100× that in the other adjacent room, so it makes sense to have sensors everywhere.
Still very far from 50, though.
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> after 5 years it's due to be replaced anyway Are people really replacing their home network infrastructure every 5 years?
The best move is to add cables where possible. I’ve got a slightly upper scale consumer mesh network (with Ethernet backhaul) for anything that moves, everything else is connected via cables (have to admit that I only had to draw one cable from the fiber outlet to the other side of the room where an Ethernet outlet was ready) and gigabit switches, both of them at a very low cost. I get almost the same speed and laten…
Can't recommend this enough. WiFi is great for mobility but it's just not that reliable. For anything that doesn't have to be moving, pull some ethernet to it and be happy for the long haul.