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Mount Athos, the “Autonomous Monastic State” of Greece (2016)

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Mods didn't touch your comment or even see it. Users flagged it, and rightly so because it was obviously flamebait. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of this site more to heart? We want thoughtful, curious conversation here, not ideological bashing.

You have misunderstand what's happening here! This post was #1 on Hackernews, as the article tried to play with common triggers (which somehow worked quite well), letting people believe they are reading about a massive case of sexism - which is not the case here. This topic is often used in the "woke" bubble to literally start a social bushfire on social media pages and news sites. And now it has even reached Hackern…

The bulk of this thread doesn't match your description at all. There are comments about calendars, monastic lifestyle, even software used by the monasteries (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29511744), and so on. Most comments that reference the social controversy aspect are doing so in a thoughtful way.

In such a context, a comment like yours is flamebait even if your intention is to correct the record. Comments need to be much more thoughtful, factual, and neutral than that, especially when the topic is one that gets people triggered. As the HN guidelines say: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

Making false assumptions about "woke mods" is already a sign that your comment was coming from a place of conflict, not curiosity. I don't mean that in a judgmental way—nearly all of us feel conflictual about these divisive topics. But we all need to learn to recognize that in ourselves and not let it drive our contributions here.

Re: Mount Athos, the “Autonomous Monastic State” of Greece (2016)

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With things like this, I always wonder how it was under the Byzantines. Probably not so bad, but probably not flying that flag either.

Oh whoops I meant to write the Ottomans. I don't really care how it was under the Byzantines that's not a such an interesting question to me!

Re: Mount Athos, the “Autonomous Monastic State” of Greece (2016)

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How feasible would it be to do a pilgrimage there without knowing Greek?

You can get by with English, but you won't understand the service (which is in the monastery's main language, e.g. Greek/Russian/etc).

Worth to mention that even some native greeks and russians have hard time understanding the services as russian monasteries are using Church Slavonic [1] and greek monasteries very old version of the Greek.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Slavonic

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