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Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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I think if they fix them the global finance sector will crash overnight.

Like when zoom causes text lengths to appear inconsistently? Or when page resize based on different printers breaks page appearances?

Wow, still a thing?

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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10 minute QA because they don't seem to have done it: - It consistently starts slower than Notepad3 while having substantially fewer features to load (and also slower than the old Notepad of course) - THEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS (especially when grabbing the scroll bar handle). Any amount of delay is too much in notepad - the animation runs at 60Hz even on a high refresh rate screen, so it loo…

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Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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post #89

I worked on Windows back in 2014, probably the most surprising thing joining there out of college was looking through the bug database. Every issue that gets complained about online -- and many more -- are in there, and have been for a long time, marked WONTFIX due to a potential compatibility break, lack of priority, or some other policy reason. I don't know if anyone even owned Notepad or any other older inbox apps…

I imagine then at least 80% of Excel's bug tracker must have WONTFIX as a designation, cause I tell you, the same fucking bugs seem to come with every release.

Not to mention Excel inherited bugs from Lotus 1-2-3 for the sake of compatibility, and therefore incorrectly treats the year 1900 as a leap year: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/excel/w...

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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windows 10 + 11 is such a mess.

It's just a pretty skin on top of the same Windows NT Window chrome. The modern UI skin is baked in with a bunch of none-sensical UX decisions.

I also hate how Windows' happy-path setup, does not encourage use to create and operate with a low privileged local account. Instead, if you click through the setup process, you end up running the OS w/ an admin level account.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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It's crazy to me that Windows 11 has already been released and yet they're still adding what should be core functionality to the OS as an after thought. If they are so set on redesigning Notepad and/or all system apps to use the new design style, why would those not be prioritized and included in the original release from day 1?

Operating system for majority of users are feature complete for years and for most common tasks it would make no difference if work would be done on Windows, macOS or some Linux distribution. Perhaps the preexisting familiarity with a particular OS would be the only factor determining how comfortably user get the job done. But it can be done anywhere.

Emoji or gif support in desktop OS, sidebars or notification centers, all sorts of content or tasks suggestions, virtual assistants that are limited to only few languages, countless GUI changes or application redesigns that makes no sense or make the workflow worse. All of this is often presented as some breakthrough "experiences" that are about to fundamentally change user life - forever. And for quite some time I'm having a feeling that all of this is being done only to provide an illusion that someone does something, so the all decision-making people, CEOs would be satisfied that a product was improved. Maybe there are people who are impressed with such things or expect that these should be here but I'm definitely not.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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post #162

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> HEY ANIMATED THE SCROLLING OMG PLEASE DONT DO THIS That's always the first feature I turn off if I start a clean web browser profile. I'm not even sure why "smooth" scrolling is a thing...

I like smooth scrolling in browsers. Easier to track things with eyes. (though OP complains about "when grabbing the scroll bar handle", which sounds horrible)

For the record, I also dislike smooth scrolling in the Start menu, settings app etc. With Edge, they lowered the animation speed from baseline Chromium to match that I think.

In Chrome it's nice at high refresh rates and looks buttery smooth, but at 60Hz it's too choppy so I turn it off there. It seems that the Edge devs have opted for a slower (=smoother) animation, optimized for 60Hz screens, whereas Chrome has opted for more responsiveness.

(giving the user the ability to tweak the scroll animation speed would be too much to ask I guess)

(disabling smooth scrolling with the "disable animations" setting in Windows is too much to ask as well I guess)

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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I like smooth scrolling in browsers. Easier to track things with eyes. (though OP complains about "when grabbing the scroll bar handle", which sounds horrible)

For the record, I also dislike smooth scrolling in the Start menu, settings app etc. With Edge, they lowered the animation speed from baseline Chromium to match that I think. In Chrome it's nice at high refresh rates and looks buttery smooth, but at 60Hz it's too choppy so I turn it off there. It seems that the Edge devs have opted for a slower (=smoother) animation, optimized for 60Hz screens, whereas Chrome has opt…

There are flags for this. There is a flag to toggle “Microsoft Edge scrolling personality” in Edge and there is a flag to toggle smooth scrolling overall.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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Notepad is core OS functionality? I think not.

For Windows I would say it is. Windows doesn't come with vi, nano, or any other terminal text editor, and some kind of text editor is needed for pretty much anything you would do with a computer.

True, but Windows 11 did not ship without a text editor in October. It shipped with the old version of Notepad.

Re: Redesigned Notepad for Windows 11

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I assume it will be at least as slow to load as the redesigned Calculator, and bug me to rate it Microsoft Store every now and then.

A friend complained about making mistakes on their mobile calculator nowadays because it has significant input lag since an update. Needs a third party calculator app now... I was happy that I could recommend Simple Mobile Tools' calculator, open source donationware and does only what it should. I only know of it because my phone didn't come with a calculator at all, which I found weird too. I use a bunch of their ap…

> Simple Mobile Tools

For anyone who hasn't seen these, I recommend them as well. The default calculator works fine for me, but "Simple File Manager" and "Simple Gallery Pro" are fantastic apps that strip out the typical cruft of these tools, and unlike some alternatives (looking at you, Amaze), have no tracking scripts or nag screens.

https://simplemobiletools.com/

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