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Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by kingcharles »

chris_wot wrote: post #96
jitix wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

Down the bottom there is a link to the desktop version of the site.

TIL!

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by krjt »

azinman2 wrote: post #68

I want to use this. Looks really nice. I know there are people here who are crying for information density, but I’m not one of them. The majority of people will be happier when there’s room for content to breathe. My one sadness— no Safari support! Safari has gotten better with its extensions API support.. is it just the the store that’s preventing you?

If you want safari support, wikipedia.rehash [1] has the option to install as a per-user custom css on wikipedia, so the style can be automatically applied when you log into wikipedia. Hence it works on tablets as well. Its redesign is not as extensive as this project, but the goals are quite similar.

[1]: https://github.com/Krasjet/wikipedia.rehash#user-content-opt...

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by rdubz »

jitix wrote: post #74
nomemory wrote: post #24

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

semi-OT but Twitter seems to have recently started putting "mobile.twitter.com" in my URL bar (on mobile), as well as adding a UUID in a "t" query param when you use their "copy link" flow, which is all annoying cruft to have to delete when sharing links.

They used to just put "?s=19" through "?s=22" or so, which enumerated clients (desktop, mobile, Android, etc), which was better than the junk most other services stuff in (like utm_source and friends...)

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by kingcharles »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #62
0des wrote: post #6

OP, thanks for making this, I bet it was fun to build. That being said, I want someone to do the opposite of what this does. Less chrome, less bytes over the wire, less predictive search, less "flatness?", less timely, more timeless .

Got you, fam. https://encyclopedia.marginalia.nu/wiki-start.html (I built this mostly for myself, because I find it incredibly difficult to read text that has hyperlinks and images in the text)

Thanks, bestie!

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by JasonFruit »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #126
dsizzle wrote: post #123

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I'm with you on links being distracting, but it seems you... nuked them entirely, which maybe goes too far haha? I guess you can always go back to source if you want that.

I just moved them to the bottom of the article. In part this is because I feel inline links on wikipedia often lets you overestimate how well you comprehend a subject. It's as though the fact that there is a link over a word makes you think you could go check what that is, and therefore that you probably understand the word. Actually looking up some term mid sentence is also probably not particularly helpful for unde…

I love what you've done with the links, and will use this, I think. Thank you for your excellent work!

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by mixmastamyk »

jagger27 wrote: post #118

It's a bit rough[0] at ultrawide resolutions, but then again what isn't? There's also a small padding issue[1] next to the sidebar when the column width is set high. Otherwise it looks pretty good. [0]: https://jagger.co/downloads/modern-wiki-wide.png [1]: https://jagger.co/downloads/modern-wiki-padding.png

css columns to the rescue, maybe with a media query.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Post by thaumasiotes »

tshaddox wrote: post #154
thaumasiotes wrote: post #135

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> But it's kinda crazy that if I'm on my phone I can't just share a URL to a page with someone who happens to be using a desktop. > in my view a URL should be a locator for a resource that is agnostic of the user agent. You're not making sense. The mobile page has a dedicated URL. If you're browsing it, then sharing the URL will send anyone else to the same resource you're browsing, regardless of their user agent. Ev…

You're mistaken. Wikipedia automatically redirects you to the m. website if you type "en.wikipedia.org" into your phone browser. The same is true even if you explicitly type an article's URL into your phone browser, like "en.wikipedia.org/London". Google and Bing will also show mobile URLs in search results (although DuckDuckGo does not). The only way to see the actual desktop version is to click on the "Desktop" lin…

> You're mistaken. Wikipedia automatically redirects you to the m. website if you type "en.wikipedia.org" into your phone browser. The same is true even if you explicitly type an article's URL into your phone browser, like "en.wikipedia.org/London".

What am I mistaken about? This is exactly what I said happens. I focused this information pretty heavily:

>> The standard page will redirect mobile user-agents to the mobile page.

>> I am sympathetic to the view that the URL should just point wherever it points. This would require a change to Wikipedia's standard page so that it would display when requested on mobile instead of redirecting.

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