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Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

#171
I own a Boox Note Air 2.

Bought it when I was looking for a large screen eReader for the technical epubs and pdfs I’ve amassed over the years that require a big screen (big pages on the pdfs)

pros and cons of this company are pretty clear

Pros are that they have large eReaders and support any file format

They also run android so if you use an app like Pocket or an RSS feed to read articles, they work well enough

Cons:

The company’s documentation is more or less broken. Google how to fix something and their docs are missing, outdated, and often in broken english.

The screen itself is big but slow to refresh and in most modes leaves traces of the previous pages. They have a manual button to full refresh the page, but a user shouldn’t have to do that.

It’s not a certified android device so you have to jump through a bunch of somewhat insecure hoops to get the play store installed and log in.

Privacy: There privacy statement basically says “lol we promise to be private k?” So I want to run this thing through wireshark to see how true that is. My only skepticism is that it’s a Chinese company, and that might not be fair, but given the information I have on my device it would be good to confirm.

All that said, they have a color eInk screen that’s coming out soon that looks wonderful.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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No one is going to sell a device that costs significantly more than any other for the same power to provide what 99% of users would consider a sub par/ unusable display. Like seriously can you imagine trying to sell a laptop that is unable to watch any media, play any games and has the refresh rate / perceived performance of a 15 year old tablet. This stuff isn't ready to be a 'main' display yet.

> imagine trying to sell a laptop that is unable to - watch any kind of media - looks 'laggy' Imagine thinking that the consumer market is only for media consumers. There is a whole market of enterprise products out there, and there is certainly a use case for a _work_ laptop which needs no multimedia support. I wouldn't argue that someone buying this machine would only use only this machine. But I know I am not alon…

Basically every enterprise of a reasonable size is going to require their users to consume multimedia content of some sort - web calls, training materials etc.

If the crux is that even you, clearly a passionate eink advocate, wouldn't be able to use it as a sole device then that essentially makes the market tiny. In fact, a secondary eink display sounds like exactly what you need.

When the refresh is more capable it'll be more of an option, and I cannot wait for that to be the case. But it's just not feasible to sell a laptop with an eink display as yet.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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post #144

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No one is going to sell a device that costs significantly more than any other for the same power to provide what 99% of users would consider a sub par/ unusable display. Like seriously can you imagine trying to sell a laptop that is unable to watch any media, play any games and has the refresh rate / perceived performance of a 15 year old tablet. This stuff isn't ready to be a 'main' display yet.

And these days: if it cannot make video calls it is not a computer for work.

If you get enough shoulder-taps, a device that can't take video calls might be the best one for work.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

No colour. I want an e-ink with syntax highlighting. This is great and all, but even 16 base colours would go a long, long way. Oh also, would be nice if it were built into a MBP and I could switch between monitor types quickly, but I know that's a pipedream.

I'm currently using (on a color LCD) a syntax highlighting theme that uses about 4 shades of gray, plus typographic differentiation. It would look fine on an e-ink screen.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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post #103

I adore Boox. My Note 2 is amazing (and keeps getting better and faster note-taking with firmware updates every few months). I’ve ordered a Mira, the 13.3” one, which I think is a more useful size for the type of documents and uses e-ink has. This is super cool though!

Their devices look really neat, but I don't think I can bring myself to buy one until they resolve their GPL violations. https://www.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/fz4yka/max3_revi...

Maybe someone can convince Naomi Wu to go visit their office in person like she did for Umidigi.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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I got the smaller Dasung about half a year ago, I posted a comment about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29429093 Let me know if you have any specific questions.

Thanks! * Do you use it as your main daily monitor? * I find screen time quite addictive (which is one reason why I am on HN so much). Do you notice any difference from this perspective when using an eink screen? * Has the screen quality degraded over time? * How big a difference has it made to your life?

I can't speak to e-ink but regarding screen time addiction, I used Gray-Switch (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vegardit.g...) to turn my phone display black and white, and immediately my phone use decreased by 66%.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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I still don't understand how there isn't a market for a work _laptop_ with a display like this? - Longer battery life - easy on the eyes for long sessions reading/writing - Allows me to actually work outside!!! There is a huge market of people out there (Thinking about the typical ThinkPad users) that don't give 2 craps about color accuracy. We literally just want to read and write. Anyone envolved in Product Managem…

No one is going to sell a device that costs significantly more than any other for the same power to provide what 99% of users would consider a sub par/ unusable display. Like seriously can you imagine trying to sell a laptop that is unable to watch any media, play any games and has the refresh rate / perceived performance of a 15 year old tablet. This stuff isn't ready to be a 'main' display yet.

how does this criticism not apply to monitors or tablets, which boox already makes?

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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post #144

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And these days: if it cannot make video calls it is not a computer for work.

If you get enough shoulder-taps, a device that can't take video calls might be the best one for work.

Ideally, yes ... but in large orgs with different internal agendas and politics it might be problematic to get through :)
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