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Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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After the TX grid failure last winter, it's probably not a coincidence that Samsung's new facility will be near ERCOT's operation center in Taylor, which manages the TX grid, and will likely be the last load to shed when the grid's stressed. Used to work in the Austin fab, and the amount of money lost per minute in a power failure is mind boggling. The tax breaks Taylor offered ($314m) are not that different from wha…

The ERCOT campus has their own generation capability along with sitting between two distribution grids. Same with their DR site in Bastrop. In the case of a black start condition (grid totally down), ERCOT would need to come up first to coordinate the grid restoration.

Taylor is an ideal place for a large manufacturing operation since it's close to major highways and railroads, not too far from Austin, and land is very cheap.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Good to see the clown-car that is Texas state government embrace foreign investment from a company run by criminals when it suites them. I'm a Texan and my house if full of Samsung products, but the Gov and Lt Gov are, as always, hypocrites.

Texas is nothing if not hypocritical and reactionary.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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So everyone is on the "Let's build a Fab in the USA" train, will that eventually bring down the chip production costs? (not an expert in the field, so asking naively)

This is about the war with china. Europe: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/tech-is-make-or-break-i... Germany: https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/about-infineon/press/press-r... Korea: https://fortune.com/2021/05/13/south-korea-chip-semiconducto... Japan: https://www.aroged.com/2021/11/23/japan-has-allocated-5-2-bi... Non-OP USA: https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/09/us-chip-production-52b/ Key players are expecting an all…

How does research on poorly understood atmospheric phenomena relate to war with China?

If there's danger of a peasant revolt, war with the US would be a pretty effective way to prevent it.

French Economist article archive: https://archive.md/fcTkA ("brigades, or a division" sure doesn't sound like WWII)

Grauniad AUKUS article archive: https://archive.md/LFsoo

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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After the TX grid failure last winter, it's probably not a coincidence that Samsung's new facility will be near ERCOT's operation center in Taylor, which manages the TX grid, and will likely be the last load to shed when the grid's stressed. Used to work in the Austin fab, and the amount of money lost per minute in a power failure is mind boggling. The tax breaks Taylor offered ($314m) are not that different from wha…

This...but did Samsung quietly negotiate a "any further energy supply f*ck-ups are 100% on YOUR dime" deal with the State of Texas, or what? By several accounts, the TX grid got darn close to collapse last winter - at which point "ERCOT Op Center is next door, and we get top priority" would not get you a single erg.

FWIW, the problem wasn't a generalized grid management problem. It was a failure to properly winterize gas plants for rare freezing events. The Texas grid itself is in reasonable shape as far as I know.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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That cult leader is a crazy story on its own. She killed a presidential nominee in a ritual Definitely check it out Oh and she used to be a popstar too

> She killed a presidential nominee in a ritual Any source on that one?

I think I misremembered this case https://youtu.be/AibQvvuEsZo

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Ok, this article quietly gets fucking wild halfway through. >> Samsung spent years evaluating where to build the new fab, courting multiple locations and pitting them against each other for better incentives. But the ultimate decision came down to Samsung Group's leader Jay Y. Lee, who was granted early parole in August expressly to speed up crucial business decisions like the Texas chip fab. Accounting for between 1…

That cult leader is a crazy story on its own. She killed a presidential nominee in a ritual Definitely check it out Oh and she used to be a popstar too

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Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Ok, this article quietly gets fucking wild halfway through. >> Samsung spent years evaluating where to build the new fab, courting multiple locations and pitting them against each other for better incentives. But the ultimate decision came down to Samsung Group's leader Jay Y. Lee, who was granted early parole in August expressly to speed up crucial business decisions like the Texas chip fab. Accounting for between 1…

> Lee gave Choi money and horses in an effort to note to the cryptokids: at least with using horses as currency you can pet them and ride them and race them for prizes!

...which was also given the absurdly humorous name of "horse laundry" (말세탁), because, you know, it's just like money laundry, except with horses.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Beyond specific companies, Texas has more favorable business climate and tax rates. Housing alone is such a huge knock against CA for new companies. Even paying somebody 500k there leaves them feeling middle class when trying to raise a family. Perhaps a bit of an exaggeration, but in Texas they build like crazy to support population inflows. If you drive through Austin you'll see every third or fourth house is getti…

they are also not hostile to kids in public schools (CA dumbs down math, requires masks, requires CRT, etc.)

> hostile

> requires masks, requires CRT

This is some serious "won't somebody think of the children" energy.

Every day people like you make me ashamed to be from Texas.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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No, it increases the security and continuity of our civilization when China invades Taiwan.

China has no reason to invade Taiwan, and plenty of reasons to avoid doing it. The whole thing is just another American wet dream.

Xi Jinping has been threatening invasion for years, and before that, decades of CCP threats.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58854081

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