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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by felistoria »

louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

The White House has one of the worst ratios. I would imagine thats likely why it happened.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by mach1ne »

tpoacher wrote: post #140
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

I think you're probably reading too much into this. It's far less likely to be politically motivated, and much more likely to be profit-motivated. Quoting from the article: "We understand that some of you have used dislikes to help decide whether or not to watch a video." Remove negative counts, make people more likely to click on videos, serve more accompanying ads, profit. Simples.

Politics and profit tend to go hand-in-hand. I don't see how removing the dislike count will in any way increase the click rate.

Be the true reason whatever, but this is another concrete step into the direction of censorship initiated by the Big Tech during the pandemic.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by csee »

kiryin wrote: post #164

I wonder what likes and dislikes are even for. They don't generate income for channel owners afaik, nor do they affect the recommendation algorithm for users, also afaik. Only views "matter." Especially if the other half gets hidden now, they should just get rid of the whole thing. It doesn't seem to provide anyone with anything, except useless bandwagoning

> I wonder what likes and dislikes are even for

It's useful for users to figure out if it's worth spending time watching the video.

That usefulness degrades for politically charged content but holds for things like how-to guides, lectures, etc.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by naiwenwt »

MattGrommes wrote: post #153

I've never understood why they even have a downvote feature. It's almost always like 10,000 likes to 43 dislikes. What information is that getting across? Even if it were 10k to 1k, that doesn't even indicate anything real because of so many people disliking stuff because the host is a woman or they were told to by some other Youtuber.

In my experience the information getting across is just a pulse check of how others feel about the content. Tells you something about what to expect from the video.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by conradfr »

godDLL wrote: post #89

So likes show you how popular something is. And dislikes don't show you how controversial it is, or perhaps how general Youtube audience reacts to being exposed to something. So that now if you want to make it known you have to leave a comment. And then some stats have to be done on the comments to understand the sentiment. On Youtube's shitty unforum, you have to do stats. Right. They just sealed it, all of their li…

But reddit removed the upvote/downvote counter a long time ago?

I guess the aggregate is better than just the upvotes but it still is not ideal as a post at +102/-101 is not the same as +2/-1.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by addingnumbers »

tpoacher wrote: post #140
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

I think you're probably reading too much into this. It's far less likely to be politically motivated, and much more likely to be profit-motivated. Quoting from the article: "We understand that some of you have used dislikes to help decide whether or not to watch a video." Remove negative counts, make people more likely to click on videos, serve more accompanying ads, profit. Simples.

> Remove negative counts, make people more likely to click on videos

How were you seeing the dislike count before clicking videos before?

I might be mistaken but I thought under normal circumstances you couldn't see the dislike count until the video was already starting anyway.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

kiryin wrote: post #164

I wonder what likes and dislikes are even for. They don't generate income for channel owners afaik, nor do they affect the recommendation algorithm for users, also afaik. Only views "matter." Especially if the other half gets hidden now, they should just get rid of the whole thing. It doesn't seem to provide anyone with anything, except useless bandwagoning

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

tapoxi wrote: post #50
butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

Honestly I'm sick of every time someone posts a video suggesting vaccination it's heavily downvoted - for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc79u7ym8SY

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