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Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by lotsofpulp »

koolba wrote: post #103
jamroom wrote: post #70

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Mail in voting is still secret ballot - you have an internal "secrecy sleeve" that is in turn mailed in an outer envelope. The outer envelope signature is compared to the signature on file, and then the internal envelope is removed but is not opened in the same location. https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/wa_vbm.pdf https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/barr-secret-vote-fac...

That doesn't stop a determined group of canvassers from going door to door and pressuring people to fill out their ballots on the spot while they wait on their doorstep. It's also a perfect time to offer a bribe or incentive for a speedy completion. There's no way that any form of remote ballot is going to be as secure as doing it in person. It's just not possible because you will never know the provenance. Like most…

While the concerns are true, I am not sure if they are applicable to a society with higher levels of trust like I assume much of the US is in.

At least it is not a problem I know about where I live.

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Post by subsubzero »

colinmhayes wrote: post #133
busymom0 wrote: post #95

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Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

Democrats still control the senate in virginia so I'm not sure gun control is over. Biased because I live in Chicago, but it's legitimately impossible to stop gangs as long as it's possible to get a gun. As soon as someone is arrested there are 5 kids ready to take their place. The only solutions to gun violence here are end poverty or stop guns from out of state from entering the city.

You take guns away and they use knives and cleavers. Look to London for what would happen with guns being banned. The solution is to not ban an object but provide opportunities for people. Jobs, education, paths that pave roads to a career. Nothing drives more people to crime than feeling like they are in a hopeless situation.

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Post by BuyMyBitcoins »

caseysoftware wrote: post #135
stickyricky wrote: post #5

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There is an interesting story about Madigan in Chicago. Ran the Illinois machine. Corrupt as all hell. A college student decided to run against him and collected enough signatures to get on the ballot. Madigan typically ran unopposed. Well come to find about, of the 500 people who signed the petition to get this kid on the ballot, 1200 rescinded their support. You do the math. These people aren't loved. They just kno…

Grew up near Chicago but long gone before this happened so I looked it up: > Krupa needed 473 valid signatures of ward residents to get on the ballot. He filed 1,729 signatures with the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners. He earlier said he filed 1,703 but missed a page of signatures. > A crew of mysterious political workers — perhaps they were Buddhist monks, or the gentle sun people known as the Eloi, or maybe…

We’ve got some pretty convincing evidence of corruption and election fraud here.

BUT, rest assured this is extremely rare and these same people wouldn’t dare tamper with any other kind of election. Nor would this happen anywhere else in the United States. Anyone who asserts an election was subject to fraud is attacking democracy itself. /s

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Post by SllX »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #53
inglor_cz wrote: post #31

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With 29 million people, Texas has more inhabitants than the entire Australia, which is divided into several states.

In theory it's possible for TX to split into 5 states. https://www.honestaustin.com/texapedia/texas-split-divide-in...

In theory, it’s possible for Texas to split into any number of States. I wouldn’t put money on it.

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Post by xanaxagoras »

busymom0 wrote: post #117
yeuxardents wrote: post #97

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Thats not exactly correct. You can own hollow points in NJ, but you may only transport them from place of purchase to your home, or from your home directly to the range where you intend to shoot them, or from range back to home. It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted.

> It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted. That makes no sense and if that's the case, it's definitely unconstitutional.

Also, who shoots hollow points at the range? They're super expensive.

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Post by busymom0 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #108
wyager wrote: post #80

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This truck driver has a bit more credibility when signaling “down to earth” than GWB. People like down to earth politicians because it’s less likely they’re aspirational psychopaths who will sell out their selectorate.

> This truck driver has a bit more credibility when signaling “down to earth” than GWB. GWB won a national election for the presidency against a man a least twice as smart as he was. I'd say GWB had immense credibility at signalling his "I'm the guy you'd want to have a beer with" credentials. > It’s less likely they’re aspirational psychopaths Why is it less likely? "Down to earth" is just as likely to be an affecta…

Career politicians like Bush vs Gore comparison to a truck driver isn't fair.

The "down to earth" doesn't just mean how someone talks. A career truck driver isn't highly likely to get into politics to seek power and money unlike career politicians.

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Post by Fezzik »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #105
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #65

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sort of like how GW Bush was the one you'd rather have a beer with (than Al Gore)? When will Americans realize that being "the sort of down to earth person you'd rather have a beer with" is not a qualification for political office?

I assume that "rather have a beer with" is a proxy for "has similar values to me" and "seems honest". Those seem reasonable qualifications for at least some offices. What would you place higher, for which offices?

I think most people, even here on HN where folk are relatively educated, are woefully unawares as to what goes in to governing (diplomacy, financial literacy on a massive scale, legislating, and so forth). Sam Harris summarized the problem well 13 years ago in general terms: “Ask yourself: how has "elitism" become a bad word in American politics? There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want elite pilots to fly our planes, elite troops to undertake our most critical missions, elite athletes to represent us in competition and elite scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases. And yet, when it comes time to vest people with even greater responsibilities, we consider it a virtue to shun any and all standards of excellence. When it comes to choosing the people whose thoughts and actions will decide the fates of millions, then we suddenly want someone just like us, someone fit to have a beer with, someone down-to-earth—in fact, almost anyone, provided that he or she doesn't seem too intelligent or well educated.”

https://www.newsweek.com/sam-harris-sarah-palin-and-elitism-...

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Post by jonathankoren »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #56
jonathankoren wrote: post #26

Good. Too many politicians run unopposed and take reëlection for granted. This how you get more responsive governance.

Yes. But why would that be? Because the two main parties are more of cartel? And less like true competition?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

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Post by nostromo »

SirSourdough wrote: post #149
voz_ wrote: post #130

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I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

And I want people who lack compassion and consideration housed at the bottom of the ocean, but we can't all win.

Is this a paradox? Because it sounds like you may end up there yourself.

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Post by fdemoz »

Democrats were calling parents terrorists and sicking the FBI on them, all the while, allowing for those parents daughters to be literally RAPED by other kids in the school and not doing a fucking thing about it.

Actions have consequences. I don't think democrats have any clue how decimated their party is going to be in a few years.

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