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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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5 years of security updates, 3 years of feature updates. On the page it says on the 12th footnote, "Feature drops for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. Your Pixel will receive feature drops during the applicable Android update and support periods for the phone. See g.co/pixel/updates for details." On https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 it says…

If you use a third-party ROM such as the excellent GrapheneOS, in practice you get fully featured updates for really really long. With that said, open source ROMs don't take advantage of some features such as the Tensor SoC, and therefore the camera stops performing so good.

Graphene has a specific sandbox for google play services, so you can continue to run the google pixel camera app (which can presumably run the same way as under the official OS)

But also, it has a good hardware ISP that will also improve image quality by itself.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

>> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device You do realize that Google also scans your images for CP, and furthermore that Google's current business model is literally surveillance advertisement, right?

Sounds like they want to run a degoogled ROM on their device, which is paradoxically much easier with the Google Pixel line than other devices out there.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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I know Whatsapp photos that I never even opened (from groups I probably muted long ago) end up in the phone library whenever I do the (manual) monthly photo dump to my PC. But yes, I agree with the comment, there's no reason to hide between details: Apple plans to introduce the capability of scanning photos on your local device and comparing hashes against an opaque (non-reviewable) list of hashes that they (along wi…

Sure, but then don't pretend that this is not something every other cloud provider is doing (and has been doing) for years. This is only such a hot-button issue because 1) people love bashing Apple, and 2) Apple actually solicited feedback instead of implementing it silently behind the scenes.

It's interesting how our minds just give up when we realize all cloud providers are doing it. We accept our fate as weak consumers, unable to do anything.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

Yeah, the explanation is literally right above the pictures: "Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for all people beautifully and authentically."

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Do you think Google doesn't scan photos uploaded to its cloud services for CSAM?

Don't move the goal posts. On-device scanning has a qualitatively different privacy impact from scanning photos inside cloud storage.

What about on-device scanning just before syncing it up to the server?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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post #116

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How interesting that this clearly made made you uncomfortable. I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past.

> I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past. This is an American company. The US is largely white. A product page for an Indian company wouldn't shock anyone by primarily including Indian faces.

Even though I agree with your sentiment, you would be surprised just how many ads in India include foreigners (all white) exclusively, it’s fucking ridiculous :D

What’s frustrating is that almost nobody cares or is frustrated by it :D

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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1. Not true, I see at least 2 [0] [1] 2. Even if it was true, welcome to not being included for once in your entire life. Now maybe you can start to begin to understand what others have experienced basically every day of their life. [0] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s6bCli03aqnY_KvZoPaTgiFqCj... [1] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Zq1FVWVv9GOCRJ3oHJg0PHzWgE...

Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the whole page. Google would be (rightfully) chastised.

Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos.

Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

This is the stated initial iteration.

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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Software support is 5 years in security upgrades and 3 in OS upgrades [1] (at minimum, so it depends on their mood).

In my case it's -1 year because I prefer to wait up to a year until I get a good deal, and then there's always the option to put LineageOS on the Pixel devices [2].

[1] https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en

[2] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#google

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